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 Post subject: Re: Mob TP feed
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:35 pm 
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Don't waste your time posting stuff that needs to get fixed. Too busy nerfing xp camps and screwing with sync levels to fix actual issues that need to be addressed. Screwing with mob levels wouldn't be necessary if mob TP spam was fixed. That would open up all types of camps. As it is now, you have to have a PL or pick a mob with fairly tame TP moves.


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 Post subject: Re: Mob TP feed
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:50 pm 
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I have yet to see anything get reverted here. Only thing I've actually seen reverted was White Coney, but I think he lost the code for it anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Mob TP feed
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:03 pm 
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More people need to post about this. It's so broken it's ridiculous. People who are coming to the server and want to stay longer than level 40+ have no idea how bad this gets later on. You either end up quitting or wasting time trying to find all these 'new camps'. Or do like the other poster said and find mobs that don't do BS moves and are tolerable. It's pretty shit all around.


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 Post subject: Re: Mob TP feed
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:27 pm 
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It's all those damn BLM/NIN dual wielding wands giving our mobs TP!


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 Post subject: Re: Mob TP feed
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:18 pm 
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Aselius wrote:
Lol so stop subbing ninja and sub drk with a scythe like a real blm melee


Damn! My life has changed! Doing this from now on.


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 Post subject: Re: Mob TP feed
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:39 am 
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Cyralx wrote:
More people need to post about this. It's so broken it's ridiculous. People who are coming to the server and want to stay longer than level 40+ have no idea how bad this gets later on. You either end up quitting or wasting time trying to find all these 'new camps'. Or do like the other poster said and find mobs that don't do BS moves and are tolerable. It's pretty shit all around.


Then people need to come with the MMO mentality ready. This isn't a sprint. It's a marathon. If you're expecting to reach your first 75 in a matter of weeks and not months, then you're doing it all wrong. This may be a private server but it's one that's designed to have that retail experience in mind and that means things will take time. And with time comes learning to adjust to new things and growing the experience beyond what you already know. I get it. People don't like change. I can attest to that myself but if people are quitting because things are taking time to discover and learn about, then they're not in the proper state of mind for this game.


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 Post subject: Re: Mob TP feed
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:53 pm 
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Viktoriya wrote:
Oddin wrote:
Cyralx wrote:
More people need to post about this. It's so broken it's ridiculous. People who are coming to the server and want to stay longer than level 40+ have no idea how bad this gets later on. You either end up quitting or wasting time trying to find all these 'new camps'. Or do like the other poster said and find mobs that don't do BS moves and are tolerable. It's pretty shit all around.


Then people need to come with the MMO mentality ready. This isn't a sprint. It's a marathon. If you're expecting to reach your first 75 in a matter of weeks and not months, then you're doing it all wrong. This may be a private server but it's one that's designed to have that retail experience in mind and that means things will take time. And with time comes learning to adjust to new things and growing the experience beyond what you already know. I get it. People don't like change. I can attest to that myself but if people are quitting because things are taking time to discover and learn about, then they're not in the proper state of mind for this game.



Don't see what this has anything to do with what he posted. Please don't derail the thread with your petty bs.


If you can't see how my post was a valid response to his post then perhaps you need to head back to school and work on your reading comprehension skills some more. Also, nothing I stated can even remotely be conceived as "petty bs".

He was saying how people are "quitting or wasting time trying to find new camps". I was pointing out that people are overreacting to some changes because they clearly weren't ready to play a MMO again if they can't handle finding new ways of adapting to the game. That's on them, not Nasomi. While the TP issue is a valid reason to complain, quitting is not going to get you any where with the problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Mob TP feed
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:29 pm 
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Aselius wrote:
Oddin wrote:
Viktoriya wrote:


Don't see what this has anything to do with what he posted. Please don't derail the thread with your petty bs.


If you can't see how my post was a valid response to his post then perhaps you need to head back to school and work on your reading comprehension skills some more. Also, nothing I stated can even remotely be conceived as "petty bs".

He was saying how people are "quitting or wasting time trying to find new camps". I was pointing out that people are overreacting to some changes because they clearly weren't ready to play a MMO again if they can't handle finding new ways of adapting to the game then that's on them, not Nasomi. While the TP issue is a valid reason to complain, quitting is not going to get you any where with the problem.


I think the point is, you've highlighted 1 portion of a post that strayed off the topic of the thread. While you were speaking about something someone said in the thread, you didn't adress the actual topic.

I remember you quitting and making a big ol drama post about it when nas took away some of your pixels, if other people want to quit cause nas changed some pixels, thats up to them.

Now can we stay on the topic?


Well seeing as you want to dig up old history and try to drag my name through the mud, then you leave me no option to stray off topic again. No, they're not the same thing. Not even close. You're trying to compare losing over a year's worth of work due to imbeciles cheating their way to the top versus having to find new options to gain experience due to some minor bugs. These things are not even in the same ballpark.

Secondly, no that post was not drama filled. Not sure where you're getting that notion but perhaps you should go back and reread the thread before you try and pass it off as nothing more than someone bitching over the internet next time. I put a lot of time and effort into the server and lost a great deal of it due to some shitty people but despite that, I was very amiable about it in that thread.

Now, you can come back and try to refute what I said or you can drop it and move on. That choice is yours.


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 Post subject: Re: Mob TP feed
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:37 pm 
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The formula for mob-fed TP if I recall is: mob gets tp the player got from the hit +3
So yes lower delay weapons do feed tp faster in a perfectly retail manner.

10.0 TP feed from damaging spells appears to also be working correctly.
I have no idea if mobs holding their tp and not going at 100% when above 25% health is working.

If there is anything specific you would like me to test I would be willing to.

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 Post subject: Re: Mob TP feed
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:55 pm 
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Deadwing wrote:
The formula for mob-fed TP if I recall is: mob gets tp the player got from the hit +3
So yes lower delay weapons do feed tp faster in a perfectly retail manner.

10.0 TP feed from damaging spells appears to also be working correctly.
I have no idea if mobs holding their tp and not going at 100% when above 25% health is working.

If there is anything specific you would like me to test I would be willing to.


Something I've been curious about for a while and is relevant to the thread, DW, do you know if subtle blow actually works? I can't say I've actually tried testing it myself. I know Penance (MNK Merit ability) doesn't work on the tests I've done but not so sure about subtle blow.


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