Sounds good except you missed the part where there is no synth in that range, you know towards then end.

Each synth that was tested was 5 away. The reason i used two different synths was because some are naturally worse then others. A good example of this would be pineapple juice for cooking. I did both Dance Shoes and Tarutaru Sash and got same results. It will get fixed at some point or i'll get banned for posting a bug report everyday.

I'm curious to know what kind of material loss rates you all are getting. Today I did 245 synths while skilling up, ranging 3-5 levels away from cap, amounting to 130 successes and 115 failures.

Total materials used: 1688
Total materials lost: 504
Overall material loss rate: 29.9%

When adjusting the loss rate to account for breaks only, it seemed pretty consistent across the board that on a break each individual material had about a 65% chance of vaporizing.

30% sounds about right for total losses for what I've been seeing. I've been doing a lot of low-level (<20) crafting at 3-5 levels away from cap as well lately, and although I haven't been keeping detailed records, as a rule of thumb I'd expect to lose around a quarter of what I put into it.

That said, I don't think the lost materials are independent of each other. I mostly see either breaks with 0 losses besides the crystal, or breaks with 50%+ of the items lost. 65% losses per break on average sounds plausible to me, but I doubt it's literally "for each material roll 1-100, on a 65 or less you lose the item". It's probably tiered like resists or anything else, where on a break you roll on a table and then can salvage 0%/50%/100% randomly chosen materials or something like that.

just did 5 stacks of synth/desynth of muscle belts at 82+2+3 (5 from cap) and got .5 from it (~90ish synths)

absolutely ridiculous

I don't know what to do anymore, I've moved 5 levels in smithing in a month(48-53). I've dumped about a mil of farmed mats into it. I have gotten a single .1 skillup from a fail at 5 levels away. I can't mine in yughott grotto for mass amounts of iron, I'm not high enough for my retail source, and other sources aren't available. I have 10 stacks of iron ingots, 3 of steel and nearly 2 of darksteel, but I just cant bring myself to use them because everytime I cut into them its a complete waste of time, money and effort and I just ragequit.

The rate of failure and crit fail at 4/5 levels away is closer to what 7/8 levels was in retail, 2 is what 4 was. The fail skillup rate is almost nonexistant, its almost as if the success rate of lightning xtals in retail is the number used for the fail skillup rate and I dont even know why I'm wasting my time typing this here. Welp, that was another 40 synths with one skillup and a crazy loss rate at 5 levels away, my second ever fail skillup within 5 levels since the change. /wrists

Some guy in Koopa’s twitch stream swore to me that T2 rates are 25% and that nothing about the rates here are off from retail, and all I could think of was this forum thread of everyone swearing off crafting in mass.

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Its beyond horrible for skill up rates. Shouldn't be this bad at all because it sure as heck wasn't in retail. 600 synths one day and got maybe 3 lvls lol.

Crafting rates are nerfed to keep the old guard and inner circle happy.

There, I said it out loud.

Thanks for the input.