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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:40 pm 
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It's clear, the server cannot support overpopulated HNM zones and this cannot be fixed. It's not a pleasant experience for any of the linkshells there, especially the ones with claim (because of the horrendous lag). We need a better solution! As many of the linkshells will disagree with each other on camping and claiming rules, I think they can all agree on having a force pop system, similar to retail. The normal spawn can be left alone for those who enjoy the competition (and lag), but having an alternative would be a welcoming addition. If this change is implemented, we can all enjoy the game as Nasomi intended it to be.

The population is only growing so adding this sooner rather than later would be a wise decision!

Any other ideas and solutions are welcome for discussion.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:57 pm 
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A Change.org petition. How quaint. The vocal minority begging for force popped HNMs just won't be silenced!

Nas has some upcoming adjustments to implement.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:08 pm 
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I agree that the lag issue needs to be addressed, but do not agree with adding force pops.

Wonder if a solution that caused everyone but the claiming alliance to be teleported outside the zone, similar to what the event buffalo did, would work?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:28 pm 
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Maybe you could get the large percentage of players that do not want force pops to compromise with very decreased drop rates of pop items. I'm for them simply because more ksnm loot on the market and less bottleneck for increasing population. However, I believe were in the minority, and Im not signing that dumb petition.

Other alternatives are the implementation of einherjar, or to wait until Nasomi introduces a lag fix.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:40 pm 
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or enforce some of the rules.. if people are banned for spamming emotes "interfering with peoples ability to play the game" surely there should be some recourse for people who spam flash on nidhogg when its claimed to another alliance... or people who spam tractor on dead people during a fight to try and interupt or ruin someones ability to raise...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:53 pm 
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I don't know what server you guys played on but back in 2005 most servers had about 3k-4k players online at any given time. All 3 of the HNM zones had 150-200+ people during the pop windows. We had very similar issues with insane amounts of lag and zones crashing. Not much is different today other then we don't have to deal with JP players who see the mob spawn 2 seconds before anyone past china does.

TBH we should follow the same rules as other private servers with open world raid mobs. If a member of a LS is caught griefing a group, they whole LS is banned from joining HNM fights for a week+. Maybe if your actions could possible lock out the whole LS for a week, then people would think twice about griefing.

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or enforce some of the rules.. if people are banned for spamming emotes "interfering with peoples ability to play the game" surely there should be some recourse for people who spam flash on nidhogg when its claimed to another alliance... or people who spam tractor on dead people during a fight to try and interupt or ruin someones ability to raise...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:06 pm 
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islandwalk wrote:
It's clear, the server cannot support overpopulated HNM zones and this cannot be fixed. It's not a pleasant experience for any of the linkshells there, especially the ones with claim (because of the horrendous lag). We need a better solution! As many of the linkshells will disagree with each other on camping and claiming rules, I think they can all agree on having a force pop system, similar to retail. The normal spawn can be left alone for those who enjoy the competition (and lag), but having an alternative would be a welcoming addition. If this change is implemented, we can all enjoy the game as Nasomi intended it to be.

Please sign the petition so Nasomi understands how much of an issue this really is. The population is only growing so adding this sooner rather than later would be a wise decision!

https://www.change.org/p/nasomi-change- ... e-pop-item

Any other ideas and solutions are welcome for discussion.



this dude started a change.org petition hahaahahhahahahaahah

Anyways, don't try to fundamentally change the game from the way it's been built and then just say that's enjoying the game "as Nasomi intended it to be". This server is a dictatorship, and if he intended there to be force pops there'd be force pops.

I personally agree with him. I think force pops ruins the game. Either way, my preference matters as much as anyone else's in this thread.

Instead, maybe ban people that try to ruin the experience without worrying about whom they are. It won't take long for there to be a change. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, Nasomi has fixes in the work for this.

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or enforce some of the rules.. if people are banned for spamming emotes "interfering with peoples ability to play the game" surely there should be some recourse for people who spam flash on nidhogg when its claimed to another alliance... or people who spam tractor on dead people during a fight to try and interupt or ruin someones ability to raise...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:11 pm 
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Simple fix, find what LS the guy is in and ban the whole LS from going to the 3 kings for a week. Project1999 does the same thing and does a pretty good job at keeping the griefers somewhat at bay.

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