well... The thread started off decent, and then.... some people still have the illusion that they can bitch their way into utopia, if it's so simple to fix it all, then go fix it, submit the fixes as contributions then PM nasomi to let him know where to go find em. If you can't contribute to fixing things, then wtf you hating on nasomi for? You think he "should" do better, but you forget to mention whether or not you "could" do better, and if you can, let's see it.

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You're tellin' me.
Went into davoi to help someone farm for a coffer earlier and found myself getting demolished by generic high-tier orcs as 75PLD. It was basically kill one then rest, cause even just one would exhaust my mp pool and leave me with like 600hp. It was a shock to be getting hit so hard by enemies i know i've been plowing through frequently over the past months. I had just gotten comfortable with the idea of PLD greatsword, but this instantly put that on a swivel and found myself equipping sword n shield just to stay alive.

I don't knw how many more experimental changes nas is going to have to push over however long a timeframe so things start balancing out, but at this point melee jobs and PLD especially have lost a lot of whatever little efficiency value they had thanks to the cure nerf in june and this recent protect nerf.

In watching how bad the play experience has devolved into over the past two months, i really can't help but imagine the official updates FFXI received were for nothing but the better. And I'm saying this as someone who basically knew nothing about FFXI before joining nasomi, cause i only played for a couple months, 13 years ago. Watching what enjoyment I did find since starting in April, slip between my fingers as nas retrogrades this server into an archaic beta shitfest, is just too much to deal with.


Ironically the protect nerf, although undocumented in patch notes, and probably an unintenional side effect of messing with the crab defense spells, are now "era". Besides protect3 being OPNERFNOW at a whopping measily 75def, protect4 for 55def is era accurate to 2007 values. Whats to help. This is the kind of dumb shit nas has been going after. Era accuracy. Run everything into the dirt and leave BLM burn parties the sole efficient way to accomplish anything. But also do these things 5 years after the fact of anyone who would have actually cared.

Gone are 420hp cure4's and 120def protect4's.

Tl;dr protect got nerfed and now I cant play the game. Damn people who started first got it easy due to extra 50 def!

I doubt 99% of people didn't even notice the value change.

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Probably. judging by the forums, I was the only one who seemed to even realize how much of a negative impact the cure nerf had back in june. Took a while to get 'adjusted' to that nerf, but the protect nerf is just too much and significantly more obvious. A 75 job designed around having high defense and longevity yet barely abled to keep on top of a lv63 common mob has crossed an obvious line that is virtually shitting on the idea of having fun. Who knows, maybe some exp camps aren't even viable anymore without a pl or two.

in the same ilk, i doubt even 1% of people noticed there was anything wrong with cures or protect to deserve these era-nerfs in the first place. Shit went unaltered for years after all.

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Feel free to exclude me from whatever psychotic headcanon you've invented for yourself regarding this conversation, thanks.

Looks like protect 3 now gives 40 after nas' announcement.

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Pro 3 fixed, that's good

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Thats a huge leap of faith lol. The nasomi playerbase didn't even notice the cure nerf. It's not that they're wrong for not paying it any mind. I've sometimes mentioned it and people in LS or parties are like "what happened?"
Most people pay very little attention to numbers here.
If they played with any frequency however, it goes without saying that they've felt the game had gotten more difficult if they have any awareness of their surroundings without first chocking it up to thinking the other people in their parties are to blame for "sucking".

The points i was getting at were that yeah, no one else seems to be posting about cures and protect sucking -- but just the same no one was posting about cures and protect being out-of-era. They went unaltered for years. Please try to feign intelligence in the least and just nod and agree, miku. You will look like less of a dumbass.