Have you seen a bomb toss hit a party from an IT goblin on nasomi? It's pretty overpowered and rough. I do understand where you are coming from but ill tell you what else is around 10%. The people who are gonna stick around this server for more than a month or 2. And of those people that hang around, 10% of them are going to be proactive in their gameplay. If you want to go do a bubu party, you start a party and tell them that's where you're going. Most people playing this game need a coach, a shot caller, an event organizer if you will. It was the same on retail. My ls then and now here is pretty much the same. There are 4-5 people that make shit happen. If they aren't around, people are gonna twiddle their thumbs. Be that guy. I can tell you with certainty if you put the party together and the most desirable places are taken, your party will follow you if you have a plan.

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Serious question: If everyone is partying in the dunes, and the dunes is currently setup as the best place to get EXP.... What exactly is better about going somewhere else for the sheer fact of being different? If you want to make friends, shouldn't you probably goto the place with everyone else in it?

Also: Saying we should fight mobs that don't behave like the mobs that we fought in era (Gobs for example) because it was possible in era is a really narrow mindset, that you said you hate.

You have a really weird mindset about the other players on the server, and it's disappointing. The majority of the content of the game is post level 30. Just because you want to play the game one way, doesn't mean anyone else does. Most people would like to get past level 30 so that they can actually enjoy all the game has to offer, and the current best way to do that is blazing through the dunes for a night or two and being level 30.

For someone that wishes everyone had a wildly more open mind, and hates that everyone has such a narrow mindset, you sure do only consider one way of playing the "right" way.

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I would party with you, but all my jobs are 75 and Nasomi says i'm not allowed to make new friends.

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That's why nas introduced the sync restrictions. Personally I just leveled RNG to 37. I hit the dunes at 11 and stayed until 21, then qufim, then kazham. I stay in the dunes the least amount possible, all the new spells/ja's that you get in the 20's are awesome, shame to not be able to use them. Also who wants to be in their 30's with skills capped in their teens? There's tons of camp possiblities in the world, that's the reason I always make my own parties. I want to see as much of the world as possible.

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What is better about going somewhere else?
More often then not you hear people complain and/or being annoyed about the fact that the dunes is overcrowded and there's no place to setup camp. Dunes might/is the best place for EXP but if you can't get into a party or it is impossible to setup camp anywhere in the dunes you're not getting any of that "best EXP". You could either wait for a long time for something to open up in the dunes standing idle while doing so or you could go to the other side of the water (for example) and join/start a party there. It might not be the absolute best EXP possible but to me that party experience and EXP you get is far better then "stubbornly" standing idle in the dunes waiting for something to open up as that is supposedly the only viable thing to do.
Knock yourself out and have a great time and EXP in the dunes when there's space for you and your party. If not.. try to be a bit "open minded" and look around you for other camp spots to have a nice gaming experience. That is all I'm saying.


So i read in other places too that Nas mobs are not always comparable with their retail era counterparts. I can't seem to find any information though on why exactly those "tweaks" are made and what Nas is hoping to accomplish with those "tweaks". Why "tweak" something that narrows down the content available to the players at a certain level?

Secondly I never said I hate anything, that is entirely your own conclusion.


I wouldn't call it weird, but that's an entirely other discussion
I don't say how anyone should play the game. I'm just saying that I find it kind of counterproductive when people are complaining and/or being annoyed about overcrowded dunes and so unable to get parties or camp spots while at the same time they don't do anything to (partially) solve that issue by being a bit more open minded (touchy subject apparently) and fan out looking and making use of other camp spots available somewhere else.
There's not much "blazing" when it's overcrowded and you just standing there waiting for an opening.


Again I never said I hate anything or anyone. Please stop turning your own personal thoughts/conclusions into something that I supposedly have said.

I never said and never will say what a player can do or can't do. If a player decides he/she wants to stand idle in the dunes waiting for something to open up be my guest, I will be the last person to force or tell that player to do something else. But some of those players will eventually grow tired of the waiting and just leave the game completely thinking it is all FFXI has to offer. That imho is just a shame and not necessary as FFXI has more to offer then just that if you're willing to look for it.

That is where an "issue" of FFXI might come to light that imho requires a different mindset then what most might be used to.
FFXI is designed to be like a sandbox. You're not guided through the content and the game doesn't play itself. The player is required to "make" the content, to "make" your own game, nobody is going to do that for you.

I usually only insinuate that I'll quit doing something because of other people's actions, when I hate those actions. Sorry if I incorrectly inferred that you were actually going to quit over something that you like, or something. You hating how people play on Nasomi wasn't my conclusion, you just were a little too dramatic.

Also - I'm not sure why some mobs behave differently. Maybe it's harder than we think to duplicate an entire game by one human? That's probably what I'd guess. Either way, anyone that would routinely fight Gobs on Nasomi is a moron right now.

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Bomb toss is one of those things that has been "fixed" a few times, but still seems to be a recurring issue, much like auto-HP. Which is also back again btw.

I didn't mean to spark such a heated discussion! I'm glad that you all shared your thoughts and experiences on early partying, though!

I had my first Dunes party yesterday. It was pain to get people together, and we had go kick a WHM who, whenever it came time to heal, was "conviniently" looking at their phone, Letti g the tank die four times, but it went well otherwise thanks to all of your suggestions.

Thank you, and good luck with your parties as well!

I experienced my first auto-hp in a long time yesterday. I believe it was because I had just opened my menu and had equipment open. I think however the fix works it was nullified by that.

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To answer ur question, the dunes are a playground for new players who just reach the optimum lvl for exp parties. With the new lvl range camps designed to accommodate players ranging between lvl 10-20ish.
As you mentioned being a WHM, some helpful tips would be to acquire spells like cure,cure II, protect, shell, barfira, barwatera, poisona, paralyna, (at higher lvls) Regen,Raise and reraise, etc.
When partying without a PL, a good party setup would consist or {Tank(War/MNK,PLD/war), 2-3 DDs these could be either mage or melee for example SAM,DRK,RNG,DRG or BLM, RDM/blm, SMN.
Some jobs like WAR can both be a tank and heavy DD, so u could consider having a war filling in both tank/dd spot.
If ur party setup is mainly melee dd, finding a BRD or COR, could help with DMG/Acc/EXP buffs, as well as MP refresh, magic acc, magic dmg buffs.
Although u probably wont see those be as useful in the dunes, as they are in higher lvl parties.
Furthermore, recruiting a puller like a THF(BRD/COR can fill this job) would mean every time your party is done killing a mob, the next one can be otw to ur camp.
An example party build in the dunes would be: PLD/WAR, WAR,SAM,COR,WHM,BLM or WAR/MNK, WAR, BRD,WHM,THF,RDM
Here is a map illustrating suggested camp spots in the Valkurm Dunes:)

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