* FAQ    * Search
It is currently Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:04 am

All times are UTC




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 133 posts ]  Go to page Previous 17 8 9 10 1114 Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:12 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:55 pm
Posts: 223
Location: In your moms bed
darkwarrior wrote:
Sapajoee wrote:
Tororu wrote:


go crash this forums zone with an ownm maybe itll disappear

wats the record of tor canal ownm kills in 1 day @?



Dam expected a better response sad to see someone so desperate to find a creditable angle


wait..so Bude/xana & co don't exploit the pathing @ KC OWNM, effectively 3-manning it? Dmintid & co. don't spam flash/dia/elegy @ simurgh when one member of the fighting party disengages to trade food? we expect better from one of, if not THE oldest LS on the server.


This made me laugh.. that OWNM is easily killable with 4 characters if you don’t think so get better.... Trading food must have cause you to wipe to Simurgh last week I guess too.... how many people did you have out there like half your shell? Also TS is only year and half old so we def aren’t the oldest LS on server.... Facts are important.

_________________
SapaJoee / SapDaddy

Best PLD on Nasomi
Best BRD on Nasomi
TopShelf MVP 2017-2020
Voted Nasomi Server Player of the Century Award
Sackholder in TS


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:23 am
Posts: 1143
darkwarrior wrote:
Sapajoee wrote:
Tororu wrote:


go crash this forums zone with an ownm maybe itll disappear

wats the record of tor canal ownm kills in 1 day @?



Dam expected a better response sad to see someone so desperate to find a creditable angle


wait..so Bude/xana & co don't exploit the pathing @ KC OWNM, effectively 3-manning it? Dmintid & co. don't spam flash/dia/elegy @ simurgh when one member of the fighting party disengages to trade food? we expect better from one of, if not THE oldest LS on the server.


The area where it pops has the easiest made kite path in the world. It isn't an exploit. It's how the zone is built. Deft and I double dual box that thing in 8 minutes flat. Now bude and loud can too. They are good. You should try to get good as well.

Edit: Also, disengaging a mob does not turn it white. And why is your food wearing off on a mob that rages after 20 minutes?

Tororu wrote:
exploits...


Y'all are incredible. Please be a little more specific. You can type all the words out you want on a forum to make yourself feel better about sucking, but exe clipped out and linked video proof of you people intentionally sending excessive amounts of packets to make the zone further unplayable while we had claim. No such evidence exists about us when the other groups had claim on the mob past the initial 2 minutes where ppl are spamming for claim and the server is catching up with our many clicked macros. We did nothing but talk a little shit while others had claim on the mob. The ownm was not even up at the time so people saying the zone was crashed with that are again making shit up. Chess had a group that killed it that day before the window ever started. I'm sure he could confirm that if you asked him.

That night at nidhogg, we did literally nothing to cause any group any more lag than the server had already provided. During our attempt, people are standing on top of us keeping blink on cool down, playing bard songs over and over and over and over. Some smns did ecliptic growl many times. How many of us started crying to you in say chat about any of this while it was happening? None, we leave the whining and complaining to you other groups. We just play the game. Your excessive packet spamming in an already insanely laggy zone did manage to make us rage it. Congrats. Except we escaped out knowing none of your greedy asses would let it unrage but would insta-claim it and wipe over and over and over again. We win.

_________________
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image


Last edited by Aeroo on Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:59 pm, edited 4 times in total.

Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:23 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:12 am
Posts: 16
Sapajoee wrote:
darkwarrior wrote:
Sapajoee wrote:


Dam expected a better response sad to see someone so desperate to find a creditable angle


wait..so Bude/xana & co don't exploit the pathing @ KC OWNM, effectively 3-manning it? Dmintid & co. don't spam flash/dia/elegy @ simurgh when one member of the fighting party disengages to trade food? we expect better from one of, if not THE oldest LS on the server.


This made me laugh.. that OWNM is easily killable with 4 characters if you don’t think so get better.... Trading food must have cause you to wipe to Simurgh last week I guess too.... how many people did you have out there like half your shell? Also TS is only year and half old so we def aren’t the oldest LS on server.... Facts are important.


we were trying to make Sim fall in the water like that OWNM


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:39 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:35 pm
Posts: 2629
darkwarrior wrote:
Sapajoee wrote:
darkwarrior wrote:

wait..so Bude/xana & co don't exploit the pathing @ KC OWNM, effectively 3-manning it? Dmintid & co. don't spam flash/dia/elegy @ simurgh when one member of the fighting party disengages to trade food? we expect better from one of, if not THE oldest LS on the server.


This made me laugh.. that OWNM is easily killable with 4 characters if you don’t think so get better.... Trading food must have cause you to wipe to Simurgh last week I guess too.... how many people did you have out there like half your shell? Also TS is only year and half old so we def aren’t the oldest LS on server.... Facts are important.


we were trying to make Sim fall in the water like that OWNM



i dunno who this is, but he has moxie

_________________
Kazen wrote:
...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:15 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:28 pm
Posts: 638
Offer ban protection and I bet the proof would come rolling in :P


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:00 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:35 pm
Posts: 2629
Viktoriya wrote:
I get real tired of my linkshell always being accused of crashing the zone in a zone of 80-100 people. Nasomi has detailed crash logs that show how the zone crashed and who was apart of the crash. You're literally putting your account at risk if you knowingly crash a zone on purpose during a HNM situation. You can't hide it, he's going to know if someone crashed a zone on purpose. My linkshell doesn't have anyone in jail. If we were a bunch of zone crashers, my members would be dropping like flies.

I know he has detailed crash logs because he explained how and when a zone once crashed to me privately on IRC. So it would be wise for anyone not to go do that shit if you value playing on Nasomi.



That should fix the problem.

_________________
Kazen wrote:
...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:33 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:31 pm
Posts: 75
It's pretty sad reading through this thread when I realize it's mostly adults making these posts, flinging mud back and forth. What's even sadder is knowing you have the power to solve this issue already but the sheer amount of animosity between all of you prevents you from seeing it.

Each alliance has their tank party and ONLY their tank party down in the claiming area. Six people each and no more. Everyone else at the zone line. Whichever group gets the claim, the rest of their alliance then proceeds down to the area to fight. Everyone at the zone line immediately zones out and waits. The other tank parties may stay in the area NOT BEING DICKS and wait patiently should the group with claim die. If your group wipes, just homepoint immediately. You've lost and there's no reason to stick around continuing to lag the zone (the only exception to this is ONE and ONLY ONE person sticks around to get the ToD). If another group gets the claim, then the rest of that group and ONLY that group will zone back in and proceed to the HNM. The remaining tank parties may continue to standby, continuing to NOT BE DICKS.

This should work fine for any of the land kings. It'll take longer for your group to get to you on King Behemoth but if your tank party can't kite him for the whole two minutes it takes you to go from the zone to his spawn area, you have no business fighting KB to begin with.

Simple solution. Fair all around. Less drama over stupid limitations that can be circumvented. All you have to do is be fair to each other.


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:46 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 10, 2017 8:26 pm
Posts: 3780
Oddin, the issue with that solution is that eventually we'd have too many people even for 1 party per LS to stay in the zone. In fact, we're already close to that since you aren't rendering every player and you're still hitting the maximum packet size cap for the FFXI client. Cut the number of people in the zone in half and you're still touching on that cap.

The real solution is to release the lag fixes that nas has been working on when they are ready. Until then, I agree, you should try to be nice about how the HNM camp is organized and fought, but that's been tried before and as soon as someone gets the -idea- that it isn't being followed by someone else, they stop following it too. It hasn't worked in practice. A better "temporary" solution is to not participate in HNMs unless you need to. That might sound exclusive and shitty, but it would drastically reduce the number of people at HNMs.

_________________
Returning/Existing Player? Trouble logging in? Click here |~| New player Gil guide |~| More Troubleshooting


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:27 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:35 pm
Posts: 2629
Oddin wrote:
It's pretty sad reading through this thread when I realize it's mostly adults making these posts, flinging mud back and forth. What's even sadder is knowing you have the power to solve this issue already but the sheer amount of animosity between all of you prevents you from seeing it.

Each alliance has their tank party and ONLY their tank party down in the claiming area. Six people each and no more. Everyone else at the zone line. Whichever group gets the claim, the rest of their alliance then proceeds down to the area to fight. Everyone at the zone line immediately zones out and waits. The other tank parties may stay in the area NOT BEING DICKS and wait patiently should the group with claim die. If your group wipes, just homepoint immediately. You've lost and there's no reason to stick around continuing to lag the zone (the only exception to this is ONE and ONLY ONE person sticks around to get the ToD). If another group gets the claim, then the rest of that group and ONLY that group will zone back in and proceed to the HNM. The remaining tank parties may continue to standby, continuing to NOT BE DICKS.

This should work fine for any of the land kings. It'll take longer for your group to get to you on King Behemoth but if your tank party can't kite him for the whole two minutes it takes you to go from the zone to his spawn area, you have no business fighting KB to begin with.

Simple solution. Fair all around. Less drama over stupid limitations that can be circumvented. All you have to do is be fair to each other.


Lol


Solve doesn’t mean what you think it means.

_________________
Kazen wrote:
...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:14 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:30 pm
Posts: 230
Viktoriya wrote:
I know he has detailed crash logs because he explained how and when a zone once crashed to me privately on IRC. So it would be wise for anyone not to go do that shit if you value playing on Nasomi.


I mentionned in another - now locked - thread. Stop flinging stupid accusations at who you hate most out of jealousy.


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 133 posts ]  Go to page Previous 17 8 9 10 1114 Next

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 16 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited