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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:49 am 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
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Everything in this thread you have taken as a personal attack. My thoughts are, we just leave a shovel on the floor here and just let him finish digging his own hole on his own.


seriously, I don’t understand you two and what you’re arguing when I conceded that what Nas did to rectify it was adequate.
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I don't know them personally, I couldn't begin to personally attack someone I don't know. I can only describe the things that take place on the forums, and anyone that disagrees with the difference between the latest events and the events of yesteryear being leverage.... That makes them stupid.

You can take it personal all you want, I guess?

Hey Nathano - Last time I'm going to ask.. Are you happy with Nas's resolution of the situation or not?


When you attack people and call them stupid, you are doing so with respect to their opinion. In short, you’re not calling their opinion stupid, but the individual who holds that belief stupid and that makes it a personal attack. You should perhaps learn how to construct an argument that ignores individuals themselves but what they believe in.

And to the other person, I wouldn’t be so hasteful attacking ones character when you didn’t even know what a sample size is.


I know how to construct an argument in that manner, I’m purposefully not doing so. We aren’t in debate or logic classes.


You don’t have to be in a logic, rhetoric, or writing intensive course. It doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t practice basic argumentation skills that everyone establishes through their schooling at an early age.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:54 am 
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Do they also teach you to accept defeat with grace?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:55 am 
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Nathano wrote:
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seriously, I don’t understand you two and what you’re arguing when I conceded that what Nas did to rectify it was adequate.

When you attack people and call them stupid, you are doing so with respect to their opinion. In short, you’re not calling their opinion stupid, but the individual who holds that belief stupid and that makes it a personal attack. You should perhaps learn how to construct an argument that ignores individuals themselves but what they believe in.

And to the other person, I wouldn’t be so hasteful attacking ones character when you didn’t even know what a sample size is.


I know how to construct an argument in that manner, I’m purposefully not doing so. We aren’t in debate or logic classes.


You don’t have to be in a logic, rhetoric, or writing intensive course. It doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t practice basic argumentation skills that everyone establishes through their schooling at an early age.


Uhh unless the explicit purpose of your argument is to solely troll the person that obviously clearly believes Internet forums should follow the rules of debate.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:03 am 
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Fidelcashflow wrote:
Do they also teach you to accept defeat with grace?


Like that persons comment you didn’t respond to when he corrected you on sample size and why the deleted threads was silencing those who had a voice? Or how about you accused me of posting on most those shut down threads because it was me being bashed for my views, when I didn’t even give my input in them aside from the thread with the poll? I don’t think I lost, and the fact you haven’t affirmed that persons point shows you lack any substance in that claim you have.

In regards to you Wolff; it shows you don’t care about hearing the other side and are living honestly in your echo chamber and use the facade that it’s under the name of trolling. It shows you don’t have any respect with fellow players who don’t share your own opinion. It’s sad that someone ignores this and tries to pass it as “trolling”.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:27 am 
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Nathano wrote:
Fidelcashflow wrote:
Do they also teach you to accept defeat with grace?


Like that persons comment you didn’t respond to when he corrected you on sample size and why the deleted threads was silencing those who had a voice? Or how about you accused me of posting on most those shut down threads because it was me being bashed for my views, when I didn’t even give my input in them aside from the thread with the poll? I don’t think I lost, and the fact you haven’t affirmed that persons point shows you lack any substance in that claim you have.

In regards to you Wolff; it shows you don’t care about hearing the other side and are living honestly in your echo chamber and use the facade that it’s under the name of trolling. It shows you don’t have any respect with fellow players who don’t share your own opinion. It’s sad that someone ignores this and tries to pass it as “trolling”.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:31 am 
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Nathano, this is my last attempt to speak reasonably with you. You have been objectively wrong on points proven throughout this thread. Just because someone includes an insult in their rebuttal, it doesn't make their points any less correct. If you can't take a bit of name calling when having a debate on the internet, stay off the internet.

Now that all of this is said, I still feel you're retarded for continuing to post the same things over and over.

"Waaaaaaah, you called me a name and you automatically lose if you do that in a debate."

Heck outta here, if that's how things worked the US would have a different president currently.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:33 am 
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Kazen wrote:
Nathano, this is my last attempt to speak reasonably with you. You have been objectively wrong on points proven throughout this thread. Just because someone includes an insult in their rebuttal, it doesn't make their points any less correct. If you can't take a bit of name calling when having a debate on the internet, stay off the internet.

Now that all of this is said, I still feel you're retarded for continuing to post the same things over and over.

"Waaaaaaah, you called me a name and you automatically lose if you do that in a debate."

Heck outta here, if that's how things worked the US would have a different president currently.


For hecks same, what am I debating if I said I’m happy with what Nas did? If you’re going to call me names and take it there, you better tell me what I am arguing if I agreed what Nas did. Or is this too simplistic for you to understand?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:38 am 
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Nathano wrote:
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Nathano, this is my last attempt to speak reasonably with you. You have been objectively wrong on points proven throughout this thread. Just because someone includes an insult in their rebuttal, it doesn't make their points any less correct. If you can't take a bit of name calling when having a debate on the internet, stay off the internet.

Now that all of this is said, I still feel you're retarded for continuing to post the same things over and over.

"Waaaaaaah, you called me a name and you automatically lose if you do that in a debate."

Heck outta here, if that's how things worked the US would have a different president currently.


For hecks same, what am I debating if I said I’m happy with what Nas did? If you’re going to call me names and take it there, you better tell me what I am arguing if I agreed what Nas did. Or is this too simplistic for you to understand?


You literally said that the people complaining about PW items have more leverage with 300/1500 people than those at the relic rollback. Shut the heck up and go play somewhere else. Your name is ruined here and you will never be able to accomplish anything of note.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:42 am 
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Kazen wrote:
Nathano wrote:
Kazen wrote:
Nathano, this is my last attempt to speak reasonably with you. You have been objectively wrong on points proven throughout this thread. Just because someone includes an insult in their rebuttal, it doesn't make their points any less correct. If you can't take a bit of name calling when having a debate on the internet, stay off the internet.

Now that all of this is said, I still feel you're retarded for continuing to post the same things over and over.

"Waaaaaaah, you called me a name and you automatically lose if you do that in a debate."

Heck outta here, if that's how things worked the US would have a different president currently.


For hecks same, what am I debating if I said I’m happy with what Nas did? If you’re going to call me names and take it there, you better tell me what I am arguing if I agreed what Nas did. Or is this too simplistic for you to understand?


You literally said that the people complaining about PW items have more leverage with 300/1500 people than those at the relic rollback. Shut the heck up and go play somewhere else. Your name is ruined here and you will never be able to accomplish anything of note.


Apparently you didn’t read enough to see the moment that Nas created the buyout program I conceded my point. Concede means to forfeit a position or claim. Nas listened and something was done. I have said repeatedly again and again that if he compensated, I would support Nas. That was compensating.

Now you look like a hecking ass for assuming I kept pushing the same point and continuing to be against Nas after he made a compromise. Yet you missed time and time again I was supporting Nas in his updated decision. I will not go the heck anywhere I will play here and you will have to deal with it.


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