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People hacked and botted on retail too, that doesn't make it okay here, this isn't an argument for it whatsoever.



Nasomi's vision is a Pre-ToAU FFXI.

And no, this is implying that just because someone put work into something that's not within the vision, they deserve to keep it. This was recently proven wrong with the future removal of people's charity easy mode ZNM items getting taken away.

Leveling a separate character has perks in itself that don't require 2 accounts played at the same time to reap. If you truly believe that someone who leveled another character deserves double the claims, then someone with 5 75 jobs should just have a voke range 5x the distance. This is silly. One human player 'deserves' one player's worth of claims. Those second characters were PLed 1-75 by themselves and were not as difficult to level as their first, and no matter how many level 75 jobs you have, you're only meant to be on one at a time. With a voke cookdown of 30 seconds, able to hold claim on one mob at a time.



Going by the original rules, dual boxing is not in Nasomi's vision, but it seems like much like him adding ToAU, enough people bitch about it and he'll let things slide.

Simply, I'm calling out people's idea of how the game is meant to be played. Nasomi recently let you all know that the free items you didn't actually work for isn't in his vision, even though you did it. FFXI was meant to be played in a single session on a single character and that cannot be argued in any way. Has it been in retail? For the most part, back in the era this server is meant to emulate, yes. Has it been since then? No. That's the issue. A game is created and balanced with a certain set of rules in mind, and dual boxing skews all those rules and brings in a bunch of issues that are unintended which is why you cannot log into 2 characters at once without taking advantage of loopholes.

If dual boxing is okay because you 'put in the time to level 2 characters,' why isn't 6-boxing okay? You put in the time to level 6 characters.

Let's take poker for example. Is it fair to team up with another player and share cards? Yeah, you both put in the money, together twice as much. But now you can manipulate raises to bully other players out. Now you can count cards much easier. I have an ace and a 2. An ace shows up on the flop. Looking decent. But your second guy you're coordinating with has an Ace and a King. All of a sudden you have an advantage you shouldn't have.

And were banned, my first account on retail is a testament to that.



Your comparison might work, except sharing cards is defined in the rules of Poker as being illegal. SquareEnix never had a rule that you couldn't multibox. Nasomi doesn't have(never had) a rule against 2boxing but more than that is no bueno.

This is going to be my only post arguing with you on this matter.

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Dual boxing is the only aspect of this game that requires any skill.

Stop taking two ILLEGAL things that you could do on retail and Nasomi, and comparing it to two LEGAL things that you can both do on Nasomi and retail. You're literally killing your own argument without anyone else even trying. A lot more people dual-boxed on retail than you think. I dual-boxed a friends RDM who quit, 5 of the 7 years I played. They almost never left my side.

There is nothing unfair about leveling two characters, because its within the confines of the game. If you're not dualboxing then odds are you arent tryharding the game in other aspects also. Boohoo. Other people want to put the effort in, effort which they're allowed to do. Do you complain about the THF/RNG who has Striders, flee and widescan and beats you to VE every time? Also on the reverse argument Sly has nearly every item in the game (Yes member) and he's never had to dualbox so there's an argument for singleboxing not effecting your ability to obtain gear against the wave of dualboxing "cheaters."

Are time's changing? Yes. Is the population booming? Of course. Is over-population a potential problem. Perhaps in the future, and in that scenario, maybe dualboxxing will be limited to certain zones. But for now your "unfair" argument is just a cry for a world that will never exist, and was never that unfair with to begin with.

One could easily consider experience points to be "competitive". Should we only use dual boxes to dance around with pom-poms and cheer our main characters on?

Where does the line get drawn?

your views of what should be and what is are both so twisted and wrong that I don’t even know where to start. Good luck I hope you have fun on the server someday.

Oh, my sweet, summer child.

OP. You clearly wish you had a dualbox but your unwillingness to put forth the effort required in doing so is most obvious. Classic redirection.

*sniff*

Is that grape or strawberry jelly I smell?

Regarding the meaning of the "at once" rule, it does indeed refer to input methods that send commands to multiple game windows at once. You're totally fine if you alt tab or play on 2 PCs with 2 different keyboards. Nas has a certain way with words.

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