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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:34 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
Becuase that's their normal mechanic


you Know what it was a thought . I really thought that this would be a disscussions on Pros and cons and all this tthread turned innto is KSNM99 for kings and no because if they add it would ruin the game >.>
this was added to the game i think in 08 or 07 so combat RMT/NM going 19Hrs to spawn once rmt's here figure out to just sit at ulli and farm stone and sell more and more ppl will get banned .

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:36 pm 
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Farming pop items to pop a mob that pops normally to pop a mob that is only popped via pop items..

There's a discrepancy here.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:46 pm 
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Diorite is more in-era than Monomi


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:57 pm 
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Amage00 wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
Becuase that's their normal mechanic


you Know what it was a thought . I really thought that this would be a disscussions on Pros and cons and all this tthread turned innto is KSNM99 for kings and no because if they add it would ruin the game >.>
this was added to the game i think in 08 or 07 so combat RMT/NM going 19Hrs to spawn once rmt's here figure out to just sit at ulli and farm stone and sell more and more ppl will get banned .


Because it's taking something that was not original and adding it to make it easier for the players. So it's a logical step to ask about the next thing that was not original and adding that, too. Which is KS99 > Kings.

Saying it's like Olla Grande is hilarious because it's not. Olla was always a pop item. Ullikummi was not.

You're not foolish because you're asking whether or not Diorite should be a pop item for Ulli. You're foolish for arguing with the rest of us after the response is a resounding "no." Why ask for the opinions of other players if you just want to disagree and argue your point with them? You could have easily just said, "In my opinion, Diorite should be used to spawn Ullikummi." Okay, cool. Conversation over. Next thread.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:36 pm 
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Therin wrote:
Amage00 wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
Becuase that's their normal mechanic


you Know what it was a thought . I really thought that this would be a disscussions on Pros and cons and all this tthread turned innto is KSNM99 for kings and no because if they add it would ruin the game >.>
this was added to the game i think in 08 or 07 so combat RMT/NM going 19Hrs to spawn once rmt's here figure out to just sit at ulli and farm stone and sell more and more ppl will get banned .


Because it's taking something that was not original and adding it to make it easier for the players. So it's a logical step to ask about the next thing that was not original and adding that, too. Which is KS99 > Kings.

Saying it's like Olla Grande is hilarious because it's not. Olla was always a pop item. Ullikummi was not.

You're not foolish because you're asking whether or not Diorite should be a pop item for Ulli. You're foolish for arguing with the rest of us after the response is a resounding "no." Why ask for the opinions of other players if you just want to disagree and argue your point with them? You could have easily just said, "In my opinion, Diorite should be used to spawn Ullikummi." Okay, cool. Conversation over. Next thread.


Diorite was a pop item for ulli
https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Ullikummi

How to get Diorite
https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Diorite

Drop Rate
https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Aura_Statue

Olla grande Drop for Romeave water same as diorite
https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Aura_Pot

And the Olla Grande comment I was saying was the drop rate for water is same/better then diorite .
and that it would be the same . those 2 nms would be the same item to pop NM that drops from Golems in Ullikumi room.

And the KSNM99 for King pops has nothing to do with this post and I believe that shit is dumb i rather camp KB Nid Aspid .

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:42 pm 
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I think theyre all being a bit unreasonable too, amage, but there's no point in getting all upset over it. Nasomi will probably make the same generalization, because that's what he does.

For the sake of discussion:

Ullikummi pop items were added in march of 07, and Ulli is not a HNM or King, lol.

HNM/king pop items were added in 2011/2012.

What are the pop conditions for Sozu Rogberry, Pallas, Allkyoneus, and Big Bomb on this server?


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exelyon wrote:
I think theyre all being a bit unreasonable too, amage, but there's no point in getting all upset over it. Nasomi will probably make the same generalization, because that's what he does.

For the sake of discussion:

Ullikummi pop items were added in march of 07, and Ulli is not a HNM or King, lol.

HNM/king pop items were added in 2011/2012.

What are the pop conditions for Sozu Rogberry, Pallas, Allkyoneus, and Big Bomb on this server?



when was Iridal Staff staff added

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:15 pm 
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Amage00 wrote:
exelyon wrote:
I think theyre all being a bit unreasonable too, amage, but there's no point in getting all upset over it. Nasomi will probably make the same generalization, because that's what he does.

For the sake of discussion:

Ullikummi pop items were added in march of 07, and Ulli is not a HNM or King, lol.

HNM/king pop items were added in 2011/2012.

What are the pop conditions for Sozu Rogberry, Pallas, Allkyoneus, and Big Bomb on this server?



when was Iridal Staff staff added


Youre nathanoing our argument now.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:23 pm 
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Amage00 wrote:
exelyon wrote:
I think theyre all being a bit unreasonable too, amage, but there's no point in getting all upset over it. Nasomi will probably make the same generalization, because that's what he does.

For the sake of discussion:

Ullikummi pop items were added in march of 07, and Ulli is not a HNM or King, lol.

HNM/king pop items were added in 2011/2012.

What are the pop conditions for Sozu Rogberry, Pallas, Allkyoneus, and Big Bomb on this server?



when was Iridal Staff staff added

Iridal staff was added here by nasomi on purpose. Just like the ability to move stuff between bags in towns, and access to out of era gobbie bag upgrades. They're just bag size buffs really. Adding Iridal doesn't remove competition of endgame groups going for claim on an NM. It adds something without taking away from anything else. Perhaps if -all- changes to FFXI after ToAU were content and QoL additions instead of content replacements and dumbing down the game, making what came before obsolete, we'd still be playing retail.

The reason cited for nas not adding pop items when NMs have other spawn mechanisms is precisely because it stifles competition and isn't in the spirit of what nas wants the server to be like.

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