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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:12 pm 
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TS: hey nas we havent seen white coney in awhile what can you do for us?
Nas: watch this stress test in glacier with white coney!
TS: That works!
few weeks later
TS: Nas there seems to be a chinese shell give us some compettion anything you can do for us?
Nas: Well they all use a popular vpn to access all feature of the server lets say some are cheating and ban them all?
TS: That works!


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:15 pm 
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source= ... 6841413189


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:16 pm 
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I mean this sincerely: In what way was ABC beginning to provide competition to TS? lol

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:17 pm 
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Klic wrote:
cthalupa wrote:
Klic wrote:
Nasomi... for real dude? You just gonna blast half the chinese pop cause you're too lazy to hear people out?

There's definite ways to siphon the information out, unless they be MAC spoofing.

How many of you jabroni's are in networking? If you are then you should know how shit works and know that a widespread ban like this is silly.

MAC addresses operate on layer 2. By the time you leave your home LAN your traversing of the internet is primarily based on layer 3 communication. The MAC in a packet changes every time it moves from one switching device to another. Unless you're collecting the MAC address with software and sending it back, then you can't see what MAC they are using on the other side of the internet. When the packets ingress on his router they'll have the source MAC of whatever upstream ISP device sent them on.



True, but if he is having traffic go through some devices either way, there's still ways to look at the original source address. And if they were innocent and are willing to provide a MAC, that could be handled perhaps. But I get what you're saying as it changes from one route to the other as a new destination address comes into play.


Not impossible, but so highly unlikely as to be impossible in practice. The only way to determine the source address is to talk to the VPN service. They are the only ones who know, and it is their job to protect the privacy of their users. Short of a government order, they will not do this. Even they would only be able to provide a source IP (after a fair amount of log searching themselves) and wouldn't be able to determine who is cheating and who isn't if they're not sniffing and logging FFXI traffic, which they are obviously not. MACs do not apply here in any way, they are layer 2. Only the layer 3 IP address applies, and as we've discussed cannot be used to determine who is who without private VPN company and/or government intervention.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:30 pm 
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Starbright wrote:
I mean this sincerely: In what way was ABC beginning to provide competition to TS? lol


None. I'm not even in TS and I think this one is ridiculous. TS is not competing with ABC for anything.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:38 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:06 pm 
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No more Baozi touching Overgrown Rose and warping out. About all I got out of this 24-pg post.

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:10 pm 
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Skitles wrote:
curaya wrote:
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Your circle of friends cheated.



I feel like someone has to post all of the things TopScrape has done by this logic.

Dimitri?
Baldr?
Third party plugins?
Scraping data?


I'm sure you could add some more.
Don't be a hypocrite.


The key word there is "FRIENDS". Dimitrii was not in TS when he was banned. Learn your facts.
Baldr was, but baldr was 1 person in TS, and all of TS isnt using the same IP. Plus no one knows why Baldr was banned. We wish we did. Might have a small idea, but nothing is confirmed. The fact that No one knows this, proves that it was an isolated incident and not a whole grp of people cheating that got 60+ banned.... not even the same situations.


Sorry, just had to come back for this one.

Why are you avoiding the scraping data portion of his comment? Like for real. When I was in TS even I thought it was odd as fuck that there was a "Crafting Corner" page that required a separate login to get into aside from logging into the forums itself. Low and behold it did hold all of the scraped information behind it, and had nothing to actually do with crafting. If you don't think your friends in TS were using that, you're out of your mind. Who was it again that set that up, Tiby? I'd have to dig but I'm pretty sure I have those screenshots of him explaining how it was done.

At this point this thread is Unbanned players vs. Banned players. The difference between you and a banned person is that we aren't afraid to list off all the dumb shit Nasomi has done over the years, and continues to do. That is the only reason we are still around, to air his crappy methods and bring awareness to those facts. I've yet to see you disagree with any of his practices in any fashion yet, even Aeroo fessed up to Nasomi doing things poorly in his own roundabout kiss-ass way earlier in this thread. I can see why you'll follow him blindly though, he already threatened to ban Dodi for posting redacted screenshots outing Deft. What a strange wide open fascist world you live in.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:15 pm 
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Arieus wrote:
Skitles wrote:
curaya wrote:


I feel like someone has to post all of the things TopScrape has done by this logic.

Dimitri?
Baldr?
Third party plugins?
Scraping data?


I'm sure you could add some more.
Don't be a hypocrite.


The key word there is "FRIENDS". Dimitrii was not in TS when he was banned. Learn your facts.
Baldr was, but baldr was 1 person in TS, and all of TS isnt using the same IP. Plus no one knows why Baldr was banned. We wish we did. Might have a small idea, but nothing is confirmed. The fact that No one knows this, proves that it was an isolated incident and not a whole grp of people cheating that got 60+ banned.... not even the same situations.


Sorry, just had to come back for this one.

Why are you avoiding the scraping data portion of his comment? Like for real. When I was in TS even I thought it was odd as fuck that there was a "Crafting Corner" page that required a separate login to get into aside from logging into the forums itself. Low and behold it did hold all of the scraped information behind it, and had nothing to actually do with crafting. If you don't think your friends in TS were using that, you're out of your mind. Who was it again that set that up, Tiby? I'd have to dig but I'm pretty sure I have those screenshots of him explaining how it was done.

At this point this thread is Unbanned players vs. Banned players. The difference between you and a banned person is that we aren't afraid to list off all the dumb shit Nasomi has done over the years, and continues to do. That is the only reason we are still around, to air his crappy methods and bring awareness to those facts. I've yet to see you disagree with any of his practices in any fashion yet, even Aeroo fessed up to Nasomi doing things poorly in his own roundabout kiss-ass way earlier in this thread. I can see why you'll follow him blindly though, he already threatened to ban Dodi for posting redacted screenshots outing Deft. What a strange wide open fascist world you live in.



TS members are some of the most rule-abiding gamers I've ever encountered in my life. Hard-earned, fair gameplay, never did a single thing wrong. I mean I personally force spawned KA and then nexus caped to it for my belt.

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:24 pm 
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Your sarcasm skill reaches level 100. :lol:


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