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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:45 pm 
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Hi! Don't know if your questions were answered but I can provide some pointers to help out.
Not going to read through all the drama in the thread - I am a NIN/BLM who has done the fight 87 times (29 my orb * 3 party members)
The only INT/Magic gear I use are Morion Earrings and Eremite Rings +1 w/ Fruit Parfait.

NIN/NIN/RDM is a perfectly fine strat. NIN's elemental wheel is crucial to the fight and can be supplemented with melee attacks in between Hex Eyes / Petro Gaze.

You can practice this on any gaze attack mob or in the BCNM itself. When the animation of Hex Eyes begins, the move has already taken place regardless of what the animation is doing. Meaning, your opportunity to swing is at the beginning of Hex Eyes actual animation right after the orange "readying move" bit. Turn, swing, and immediately turn again.

Meleeing the mob coupled with the Ninjutsu elemental wheel has allowed me to typically be faster than BLUs who purely fought with physical spells and I down my lesser hecteyes in about 1:40 and help the other player with theirs. Practice will make perfect doing this.

Be sure your RDM is /WHM for paralyna - /BLM Elemental Seal is not needed to land enfeebles and /NIN shadows do nothing against a mob that enjoys -ga spells.

To speed up starting the fight - your RDM needs to only Shell 2 everyone and buff themselves with Blink/Stoneskin for the initial pull. After the initial pull - blink is unnecessary as the large hecteyes you kite prefers -ga spells. Protect is hardly necessary due to hecteyes being unable to do damage before Utsusemi: Ichi recast is available again.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask. Best of luck.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:46 pm 
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Starbright wrote:
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Care to ellaborate? Legit question.


ElLaborate with what? Coloring books?


I imagine he was thinking with the written language, but whatever you have handy.


Oh, you mean the alphabet song.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:47 pm 
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XooZQ wrote:
Starbright wrote:
XooZQ wrote:

ElLaborate with what? Coloring books?


I imagine he was thinking with the written language, but whatever you have handy.


Oh, you mean the alphabet song.



You seem like a creative guy, I think we're comfortable with you explaining it in anyway you see fit.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:49 pm 
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leonardas wrote:
@OP

Hi! Don't know if your questions were answered but I can provide some pointers to help out.
Not going to read through all the drama in the thread - I am a NIN/BLM who has done the fight 87 times (29 my orb * 3 party members)
The only INT/Magic gear I use are Morion Earrings and Eremite Rings +1 w/ Fruit Parfait.

NIN/NIN/RDM is a perfectly fine strat. NIN's elemental wheel is crucial to the fight and can be supplemented with melee attacks in between Hex Eyes / Petro Gaze.

You can practice this on any gaze attack mob or in the BCNM itself. When the animation of Hex Eyes begins, the move has already taken place regardless of what the animation is doing. Meaning, your opportunity to swing is at the beginning of Hex Eyes actual animation right after the orange "readying move" bit. Turn, swing, and immediately turn again.

Meleeing the mob has allowed me to typically be faster than BLUs who purely fought with physical spells and I down my lesser hecteyes in about 1:40 and help the other player with theirs.

Be sure your RDM is /WHM for paralyna - /BLM Elemental Seal is not needed to land enfeebles and /NIN shadows do nothing against a mob that enjoys -ga spells.

To speed up starting the fight - your RDM needs to only Shell 2 everyone. Protect is hardly necessary due to hecteyes typically being unable to do damage before Utsusemi: Ichi recast is available again.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask. Best of luck.


QFT. And I apologize for being a contributor to this thread's derailment. If there's anything more to know, just ask.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:51 pm 
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Starbright wrote:
XooZQ wrote:
Starbright wrote:

I imagine he was thinking with the written language, but whatever you have handy.


Oh, you mean the alphabet song.



You seem like a creative guy, I think we're comfortable with you explaining it in anyway you see fit.


I am a creative guy, an attribute associated with intellect, neither of which you've exhibited, ever.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:24 pm 
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Well this turned into a shitshow.

Usually that involves me.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:29 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
Well this turned into a shitshow.

Usually that involves me.


I've got a half of vodka as my excuse. These other guys are retarded without excuse.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:53 pm 
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XooZQ wrote:
Starbright wrote:
XooZQ wrote:

Oh, you mean the alphabet song.



You seem like a creative guy, I think we're comfortable with you explaining it in anyway you see fit.


I am a creative guy, an attribute associated with intellect, neither of which you've exhibited, ever.


i also deflect when I forget why I said things I did


Kazen wrote:
Well this turned into a shitshow.

Usually that involves me.


kinda missed you tbh

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:08 pm 
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I'm amused he's still on that hill 4 years later

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:36 pm 
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Starbright wrote:
Kazen wrote:
Well this turned into a shitshow.

Usually that involves me.


kinda missed you tbh


Image

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