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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:34 am 
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Kazen wrote:
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https://youtu.be/-AUA_42452E

https://youtu.be/kjKFq9w-a0c


LOLOLOLOLOL


yeah, i mean.. that's obviously abusing the terrain in the Maze lol... but I also get it... the OWNM shouldn't be popped in an area with such shitty terrain for it. whatever. people been doing that forever.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:36 am 
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Trist can u make this kid cry again pls


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:37 am 
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Starbright wrote:
Kazen wrote:
Alexandor wrote:
https://youtu.be/-AUA_42452E

https://youtu.be/kjKFq9w-a0c


LOLOLOLOLOL


yeah, i mean.. that's obviously abusing the terrain in the Maze lol... but I also get it... the OWNM shouldn't be popped in an area with such shitty terrain for it. whatever. people been doing that forever.


I just thought people moved with a little more finesse these days. Brb going to duo Ordelle's Caves.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:53 am 
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I do want to point out that I do not have any problems with Yes and certainly do not want to drag Yes as a whole LS into this. I mentioned "Yes" that is why I want to clarify that.
I was upset several times.


If that group wants do OWNMs, please go ahead but I won't allow you to interfere with my fun either. If I go for a challenge, if I feel like for whatever reason to kill this, I can do so.
I did not even want to post this crap from what? 1-2 weeks ago, but got fed up after this AOE steal claim post.

You don't own the OWNM. You get plenty every day and that is GOOD for you but if you wanna play report + harrass + steal games while you abuse the living shit out of the OWNMs in order to get your gil items; I don't know about that.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:58 am 
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One thing I don't agree with is the "terrain abuse" people keep mentioning.

When youre kiting an OWNM you want to use the terrain to your advantage, its common sense. its how you kite.

but its not the players fault if the mob gets stuck around the terrain theyre trying to kite it around. that's a coding issue, sometimes the mobs get stuck. What are people supposed to do otherwise? Kite mobs in straight lines to avoid terrain abuse?

Def not a valid reason to use an exploit to steal a damn mob.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:10 am 
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Jearheal wrote:
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Libra has spent at least 20 hours of his life accusing RFK of claim botting.

Interesting how people who cheat spend so much time accusing those more successful than them of cheating. Must be because they can't imagine people being better than them without cheating too.


I lol'ed at this. You did the same thing to zigma when he started beating you.

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Didnt RFK did hide to a KB to yes? and steal it @2% or 1%?

An RFK THF got hate on KB after Yes used the zone to tank it for over an hour and a half. He used hide while KB was hitting him. If you've spent over an hour not tanking a mob, you're kinda at fault there.

RFK did not get the KB. TS claimed it and killed it.


Your THF went back to town to change to THF/WHM spammed cure3 on himself and used Hide as soon as KB turned to him. 100% with intent to steal. Fact that Yes hadn't killed it for 1h+ doesnt matter for shit. e. g. this thread.

I even saw another RFK THF trying to steal hate and flee with the KB on the same week/week after. Probably to bring it to someone that can claim it this time after Hide so you guys dont just give it to someone else ;)
But oh well no hard proof.

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What about aspid? to yes to?

RFK has never used the AoE exploit to steal a claim.

We snatched Aspids that went unclaimed twice while Yes was dealing with large amounts of adds. Shield bash was the action used to get claim for RFK in both cases.

In the first case, Yes used a sleepga on their adds and regained claim on Aspid. This is what lead me to confirm AoEs steal claim and lead to me reporting it to Nas and in the bug thread.

In the second case, we gave the Aspid back to Yes for reasons unknown to me. They've stolen Aspid from us before when it bugged and we had only 1 add with 3 parties full of 6 people, so I don't really understand why we gave it back when they screwed things up themselves. But whatever, I wasn't there, and some people are apparently nicer than I am.


I was there, that was 100% an intentional steal from RFK with 1 add brought in. Aoe'd the add to claim steal just like it in the case discussed in this thread.
It was given back because everyone present understood what had happened.

I gotta commend you guys for always comming forward in forum posts. You PR is amazing in that regard. Always ready to accuse the ones you need accused, derailing the threads that need derailing, and closing accusations againts you with facts/memes/lies. The use of the latter just doesn't sit well here.


We're hardly the only people that think something is fishy with Zigma, and we've provided evidence as to why. He might be legit. But either way, we've never cheated to try and get back at him, like was done in this thread.

THF can be /whm to heal themselves from meteor spam when the zone is tanking. Not like any other subjob is useful for them on HNMs when they're only their for TH. You gonna start accusing every thf/whm you see in DA healing themselves up after hurricane wings? We certainly didn't get the KB claim. Maybe we were colluding with TS?

Nope. Okamigirl's shield bash was what was used to claim both times we took Aspid from Yes. We did not use an AoE to steal claim either time. It was given back because Kulgan feels like we should all get along better and that if we gave it back everyone else would start not trying to steal shit too. I think he's naive in that regard.

Edit: Removed a comment that wasn't really pertinent to the discussion at hand.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:12 am 
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Munny wrote:
One thing I don't agree with is the "terrain abuse" people keep mentioning.

When youre kiting an OWNM you want to use the terrain to your advantage, its common sense. its how you kite.

but its not the players fault if the mob gets stuck around the terrain theyre trying to kite it around. that's a coding issue, sometimes the mobs get stuck. What are people supposed to do otherwise? Kite mobs in straight lines to avoid terrain abuse?

Def not a valid reason to use an exploit to steal a damn mob.

Overclockin and members from his OWNM group got banned for terrain exploiting that exact OWNM using the bones.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:18 am 
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Munny wrote:
One thing I don't agree with is the "terrain abuse" people keep mentioning.

When youre kiting an OWNM you want to use the terrain to your advantage, its common sense. its how you kite.

but its not the players fault if the mob gets stuck around the terrain theyre trying to kite it around. that's a coding issue, sometimes the mobs get stuck. What are people supposed to do otherwise? Kite mobs in straight lines to avoid terrain abuse?

Def not a valid reason to use an exploit to steal a damn mob.


Normally I would agree, but people have been jailed for less. I speak from personal experience with the Maze OWNM specifically.

Edit: Nevermind, looks like Cthalupa beat me to it lol.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:26 am 
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cthalupa wrote:
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Still salty you've been denied both times you've tried to join RFK?

We're hardly the only people that think something is fishy with Zigma, and we've provided evidence as to why. He might be legit. But either way, we've never cheated to try and get back at him, like was done in this thread.

THF can be /whm to heal themselves from meteor spam when the zone is tanking. Not like any other subjob is useful for them on HNMs when they're only their for TH. You gonna start accusing every thf/whm you see in DA healing themselves up after hurricane wings? We certainly didn't get the KB claim. Maybe we were colluding with TS?

Nope. Shield bash was what was used to claim both times we took Aspid from Yes. We did not use an AoE to steal claim either time. It was given back because Kulgan feels like we should all get along better and that if we gave it back everyone else would start not trying to steal shit too. I think he's naive in that regard.


I never tried to join RFK. Your member (Shaiva) that tried to persuade me to join because i was pearless, and submitted a request in my name without a clear approval from me. Didn't get denied either because noone ever talked to me about it.
And that's one time. I never applied for RFK.

Dodged a bullet too, considering the toxic behavior, convenient zone crashing, bug abuse that happens around you.

I guess you really embracing the path of the lie for both king HNM steal attempts. Keep going some reading will believe you. But people that were there know what happened.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:34 am 
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Jearheal wrote:
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Still salty you've been denied both times you've tried to join RFK?

We're hardly the only people that think something is fishy with Zigma, and we've provided evidence as to why. He might be legit. But either way, we've never cheated to try and get back at him, like was done in this thread.

THF can be /whm to heal themselves from meteor spam when the zone is tanking. Not like any other subjob is useful for them on HNMs when they're only their for TH. You gonna start accusing every thf/whm you see in DA healing themselves up after hurricane wings? We certainly didn't get the KB claim. Maybe we were colluding with TS?

Nope. Shield bash was what was used to claim both times we took Aspid from Yes. We did not use an AoE to steal claim either time. It was given back because Kulgan feels like we should all get along better and that if we gave it back everyone else would start not trying to steal shit too. I think he's naive in that regard.


I never tried to join RFK. Your member (Shaiva) that tried to persuade me to join because i was pearless, and submitted a request in my name without a clear approval from me. Didn't get denied either because noone ever talked to me about it.
And that's one time. I never applied for RFK.

Dodged a bullet too, considering the toxic behavior, convenient zone crashing, bug abuse that happens around you.

I guess you really embracing the path of the lie for both king HNM steal attempts. Keep going some reading will believe you. But people that were there know what happened.

I removed that comment because I'm trying to be less of a dick about things that aren't super relevant, but there have been multiple posts in our recruitment channel from people saying you were interested in joining. I will apologize for posting it in the first place, though - there's plenty of relevant stuff I can respond to.

"Around us" - you mean around everyone in the HNM scene?

We've accidentally crashed zones before due to alliance bugs, but never when another group had an HNM or near window. We cost ourselves a cerb though, lul.

It would be easy to prove we used an AoE to steal claim. Press the screenshot button. You're making an accusation, provide some proof, or even just some evidence. You can see how to do it - look at the first post in this thread, or the videos Alex has posted. Lots of people are able to provide evidence when they make accusations, yet there never seems to be any when people accuse us. I'll say the same thing I say every time this comes up: Provide proof and myself or the other officers will take care of it. We don't condone exploiting, claim botting, zone crashing, whatever along those lines you want to accuse us of. Someone intentionally steals a mob with the aoe exploit? Gone. Someone claimbots? Gone. Someone intentionally crashes a zone to fuck over another LS having a claim or fucking with their attempt to claim? Gone.

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