We tried to do 3-5 with 12 people last night, in a variety of party combos, and only found 1 that worked once.

To beat diablos we used 2 nin tanks, brd, whm, blu, blm and full 40 gear.

PLD is useless. Diablos was hitting for 100-200 with auto attacks. Healers with ballad couldn't keep mp with a PLD tank.

BLM is pretty useless. 99% of spells were being resisted. Our BLMs end up using DoT, and backup healing mainly.

We used poison pots to avoid sleep, food, and made sure people had level cap gear. We need to get some PLD through, and a lot of other LS members, and many people don't fit the now required roles to beat Diablos. There is no room for a useless role to get a free ride through the fight.

Diablos' magic resist, evasion, and base attack should be looked at.

It surely is OP now.

But my group of 6 (1 of which was dual box), took him down on our 3rd try.

St up: PLD/NIN, SAM/NIN, DRK/NIN, BLM, WHM & RDM **DRK & SAM are merited

1st attempt we tried carby pull to the top which didnt work.

Tiles fall now, so we ended up all bunching up right near diablos, his only AOE spam was sleepga.

SAM/NIN & PLD/NIN tanked, PLD opened with sentinel + flash. SAM/NIN took hate often while Tank was asleep, he used poison pots.
He hits very very hard, and can aspir a PLDs entire MP pool. Which he did back to back to me as PLD.

It was a long fight, but kept things stable and finished it with only 1 death on 3rd attempt.

Sharing hate and all melee having /nin, and staying together on the same tile as diablos is what ended up helping us win.

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Malidar - 75 RDM | 75 PLD | 39 WAR
Zora - 67 SMN | 30 BST

This fight is so much easier with a SMN. Once we swapped one in with melee DD the fights not so bad.

sounds like hes hitting harder than retail, should be about 50-100 damage i think looking at old videos, but since i doubt he does any of his special attacks yet?...this is probably a decent compromise, these fights should be hard!

From 2007:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlItk_sNOS0

The tank gets hits for ~130 hp each time

2006: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz3Jev_FOvE

Nin hits for ~3 HP each attack

heh yeah those nins are getting wrecked! the pld in this video seems to fare much better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG0SlmRRl7g though its quite hard to make out due to the horrible video quality!

Sticky, you forgot to mention he's silenceable here which makes him do nothing but auto attack. As a whm with capped enfeebling I was able to land it without Elemental Seal, but it took more than one try sometimes. With elemental seal it lasted about 3 minutes or so.

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this was more funny before everyone copied Kanodin