I could care less about the ore, but if you're going to suggest taking a camp out, it behooves you to share that "data" on other camps to offset the loss. Also, its getting kind of tired hearing the "Out of era must die," argument coming from someone who makes their gil on out of era synths.

Concentrating on taking a unicorn example of easier xp down instead of making another one viable is just ???...

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And yet youre withholding this amazing information from the server. Shame on you.

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Things are getting kinda heated here folks...

While I personally don't think that this will happen (see other threads that haven't gotten deleted because of share and the flame war that erupted), but of you are dead set on wanting the exp camp + ore removed, it would be nice to hear what you think Nas should say to the people that craft with it as for why this was removed, and subsequent price hikes for gear that is making use of the low cost of ores.

Something that I've always found to be useful in my day-to-day work is pointing out a problem and coming up with a solution for the betterment of the company and customers both. At the moment, and maybe I missed this, but the suggestions didn't include the solution part so it's only a case of one group of people getting the benefits of the proposed change.

Just one example, perhaps as an alternative, leave the camp as is, change the drop rate (if it's deemed needed) to a lower % but not a ridiculous drop % that this would be a bottleneck to crafters; to the point where it punishes the community that uses the items and gear that this ore needs to craft so that only the people that HELM are the beneficiaries of this proposed change. You don't want people throwing you shade because they think you are suggesting this just to put more money in your pocket, as I don't suspect that was the goal of this post.

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So the massive EXP page I've been working on every single day specifically advertising it at all times is being "withheld"?


I have said before that I want Fruit Parfaits removed. They at least have nerfed stats, though. If the turtles gave less exp or were difficult, there wouldn't be a problem. But they're an incomplete mob. Content that really shouldn't be there and is superior in gains to real content that is fully functional. That is a problem.

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Folks if you want to talk about a specific mob and wanting Nas to read about said mob, please start a new post and discuss that all you want. This thread was started for talking about ore not the removal of exp camps specifically.

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Just because the OP doesn't suggest what I did doesn't mean they aren't related, and off topic.

Here's a hint for you: One way to remove the ore is to remove the mobs.

The price of items made with the ore will go up. The price of the ore will go up. You seem to think that this is all negative.

It's a return to how things should be. The prices shouldn't be what they are to begin with. Removing content that shouldn't exist, which grants those drops easily, is something that people won't like, but it will have to be done some day. Why not now?

Same thing goes for the EXP 'economy'. Why would you expect for easy to kill, out of era, half-coded mobs to exist forever? Does that mean new players will have a slightly harder time hitting 75? Maybe. But that's typical. Things have been getting harder, and more like retail here since the very beginning. People here earlier got to do things that people now can't do, and that will apply to these mobs someday too. Why not today?

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Nab, you are more than welcome to take the talk about removal of mobs to a different topic as what you are discussing is the removal of exp camp, and the thread is talking about a change in ore drops as was stated. Please feel free to start it and share a link to this post one for those that want to weigh in about the ore if they chose to. You know full well that this thread is going off topic and I would like to respectfully request that you assist in keeping it on topic.

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