and thus we've arrived at why everyone else knows this is just two groups of assholes trying to outdo each other.

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Their actual sleeper wasn't even in the zone until 3 minutes to time to zone in. Even irrespective of swapping a sub, a 74 RDM using an iridal and other poor equipment is not a suitable sleeper. They're absolutely welcome to try, but when they understand themselves to be a holding party when they fail to meet the requirements of THF sleeper BLM BLM, then their spot in line is forfeit. I have no issue with people swapping subs, getting stuff from their MH, etc. Not even being present at the markings with the above party is clearly against the spirit of the holding party decorum the server generally observes.

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I share a discord with Dirac and some others.

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Trust me, I've checked plenty of ppl in DB. Ya'll don't get to decide who's gear constitutes a sleeper. That's not how it works. They had a BLM, BLM, THF, and RDM at the markings.

Like I said, it's just two groups of assholes being assholes. And that's fine, welcome to Nasomi and all. It's how it works. You're not going to convince me that Dirac's group didn't know they were being assholes, and that agreeing to a split and then just deciding that split is no longer agreed to amongst yourselves isn't an asshole move. Sorry.

Luckily, none of our opinions matter. Most people already consider most of the DB groups that run Dynamis to be assholes, and frankly it doesn't seem to bother them that much. I think that's a fine outlook.

It's okay to just admit that you saw a weak group that dind't know what they were doing and tried to take advantage of the situation. They effed up too. Any rate, best of luck. It seems likely Tankfest will do something dumb enough to get himself banned in the near future, and that most DB dyna groups will continue to be assholes in the future.

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That's actually my favorite part of this. Now that DB finally has some well geared and merited people, theyre snubbing the people who were just like them not too long ago.

FTFY.

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You didn't fix shit. They had a RDM who could be /BLM in less than 30 seconds if he needed to.. Except he didn't need to, because they had someone standing 10 seconds away from them that was going to be joining them as soon as his other character was done in the zone they were waiting for.

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I guess the fundamental difference here is that, if I were in a similar situation and my group didn't actually have a holding party there, I would openly admit it and let the group who did, go. I fully expect my people to be at the markings, on the correct job, with their gear. I don't mind mog house visits, but sitting inside Mhaura for 45+ minutes is not sufficient and I would not accept it from my group as holding our place in line. I expect the same from others.

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They had a holding party there.. They just didn't decide to have the RDM unnecessarily switch his sub to make a stranger feel more secure about his feelings.

Now they could have had the BRD zone out of Mhaura and stand 5 seconds away from where he was AFK'ing I guess, but again... they didn't seem to be that concerned with someone that wanted to be a dick on purpose.

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That RDM was not their sleeper. You're missing my point. Also, by his own admission, he was not at the markings when the zone crashed. Nor did he beat us there after the zone came back up.

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