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exelyon
 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:12 pm 
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mimickiller wrote:
My favorite thing that comes out of every buff or nerf is the rage at dudes who maintain this server and support it voluntarily.

For free.

And think they need to drop what they are doing bend over and do what you want.

Guess we don’t go into the real world much



He said himself in the stream that he doesnt get to play god with our collective time. That he himself has to make reasonable decisions with how much of our time he can reasonably waste. How would you suggest that get communicated to him?

Like, can all of you guys who just repeat this offer some constructive advice to distinguish yourself from people who just leave snide remarks meant to degrade others? Just really makes your horse look like it's on stilts.


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Wolffhardt
 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:16 pm 
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Louiscool wrote:
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He fixed a bug, and then nerfed the job so that fixnig the bug approaches getting the job back to the state it was with the bug ... in some cases.

In other cases, no the TP gain wouldn't really make up for it.


i dont get it..

he made so all of those ranged attacked are now correctly working for RNG.

It's a ranged job for most things, and it's correctly now a ranged job. Spending a lot of time in something you know isn't working correctly runs the risk of having that time proven wasted, aside from the things gained while it wasn't.



It was working correctly before (or rather, actually it was underpowered technically because of the ammo bug). Adding yalms to the ranged formula isn't "fixing" RNG, or making it work "correctly". It's re imagining it to an era that no one particularly likes.

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...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


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Louiscool
 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:21 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Louiscool wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
He fixed a bug, and then nerfed the job so that fixnig the bug approaches getting the job back to the state it was with the bug ... in some cases.

In other cases, no the TP gain wouldn't really make up for it.


i dont get it..

he made so all of those ranged attacked are now correctly working for RNG.

It's a ranged job for most things, and it's correctly now a ranged job. Spending a lot of time in something you know isn't working correctly runs the risk of having that time proven wasted, aside from the things gained while it wasn't.



It was working correctly before (or rather, actually it was underpowered technically because of the ammo bug). Adding yalms to the ranged formula isn't "fixing" RNG, or making it work "correctly". It's re imagining it to an era that no one particularly likes.


I hope the “unintended consequences from today’s maintenance” is still, somehow, RNG needing nerfed more.
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Therin
 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:27 pm 
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I'm 100% behind the idea that distance should be relevant to make Ranger an actual ranged job.

But from what I've heard various Rangers report, I just think that this particular iteration of the distance patch should be adjusted.

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Louiscool
 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:28 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Everyone wants an accurate server and until it's their job that gets pointed out is crazy broken, I guess.
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mimickiller
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:29 pm 
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Louiscool wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
Everyone wants an accurate server and until it's their job that gets pointed out is crazy broken, I guess.
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mello
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:31 pm 
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mimickiller wrote:
Nazgul wrote:
I can't add anything to this conversation about Rng but I can confirm that I have enjoyed reading this at work.


Ya my day is flying by lol


"Dammit, slow day at work on a Monday...."

"oh wait...an 11 page thread on Nasomi."

"ahhh!! it's already 2:31PM, now I have 2 hours to get my whole day's work done! shit shit shit"

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Wolffhardt
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:33 pm 
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Louiscool wrote:
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Everyone wants an accurate server and until it's their job that gets pointed out is crazy broken, I guess.


I think you mistakenly believe the previous iteration of RNG wasn't accurate......

Which, it wasn't, it should have been slightly stronger with the ammo TP bug fixed.. but I don't think that's what you mean.

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mimickiller
 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:33 pm 
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mello wrote:
mimickiller wrote:
Nazgul wrote:
I can't add anything to this conversation about Rng but I can confirm that I have enjoyed reading this at work.


Ya my day is flying by lol


"Dammit, slow day at work on a Monday...."

"oh wait...an 11 page thread on Nasomi."

"ahhh!! it's already 2:31PM, now I have 2 hours to get my whole day's work done! shit shit shit"


Lol, own the place and it’s a slow day
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Wolffhardt
 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:35 pm 
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I genuinely can't tell if some of you are actually dumb enough to not see the difference between what happened to RNG and BST. If you're all just trolling, its a weird flex.

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