There hasn't been any discussion b/c no one is crying about it but you. I don't dual box and have 3x75 jobs and have been able to obtain the vast majority of the gear I would like to have (6 months on the server). People who truly want to progress find a way. The rest find an excuse. This "problem" exists in your head.

From an unbiased perspective, new players can create 2boxes for themselves from day 1. Older players(both 1box and 2box) will have better gear than you do because they've been around the server longer. Attempting to cut the legs out from older players will result in many leaving the server. Also fwiw, if you truly want unbiased discussion, stop having a bias against 2boxes.

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Words are free to be used but the definitions don't change. It isn't an issue just because you're hurt by it. That's your issue.

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The discussion was had long before you made this forum post. It's why we just went with shitposting. It's not an "issue" because it upsets you.

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The server would lose tons of players if Nasomi limited dualboxing. Why would you want to advocate something that causes the server to lose players? We're still at less than half of prime era server population.

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The restriction on controlling 2 chars at once is through some *not going to be named* functionality, discussion about that isn't tolerated either, but if you actually alt+tab or use switchmon to change to the game window, and are directly controlling the dual boxd char, has always been allowed. Some do, some don't, I personally prefer not to, but I started back when the server had like 200 ppl max, and now I have a whm alt hovering around 72-73, which is useful, so planning to use it.

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Okay so basically what most of you are saying is you like the advantage and if anything was changed, the people who sit on this game all day would throw a another ZNM tantrum and leave, Mkay, let's switch up the 'discussion' then.

Quote this post only if you answer the following questions, please

1. Do you think dual boxing is fair, and is it within the rules of the server?
2. Do you think 10 boxing is fair, and is it within the rules of the server?

If you answered yes to 1 and no to 2, why no to 2? Because it gives you an unfair advantage? If so, dual boxing absolutely gives an unfair advantage as well, but to a lesser degree than 10-boxing

Still unfair advantage.

There's people sitting in treasure chest zones on an alt picking a lock an hour while they xp on their main. They would never actually normally sit in that zone all day every day, but they can because it's zero effort and they can still progress. FFXI was designed to make you make choices on what you want to spend your time on, and this takes that away.

And this server is a different game, yes, but that doesn't mean everything is right. How about the low level player trying to make money off those chests, but can't because the low effort chest poppers tank the price of everything inside due to massive supply?

As a high level player, it's nice to dual box and it's efficient and you make a lot more money than you should be able to, but is that selfishness worth it or fair for the new players who have much less opportunities on Nasomi? Put your greed and selfishness aside and have an actual discussion on the matter for a moment

1. Yes
2. No

It's fairly easy distinction: The person that makes the rules, and thus determines what is fair and what is not fair, has said that the answer to #1 is Yes and the answer to #2 is No.


My answer to #2 would be "Yes", if Nas determines you're allowed to 10 box.

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If everyone is allowed to 10 box, it's not an unfair advantage. It's only an unfair advantage if someone is breaking the rules, which as we have already clarified, is not the case with dual boxing.

Everyone is not allowed to 10 box, because this is Nasomi's server, therefore he can make the rules.

Have you tried dual boxing or are you just being stubborn? It literally makes life so much easier and I can guarantee you that anyone who is doing it on Nasomi would've also done it on retail if it weren't for the extra $12.95.

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Yes, because it was relatively regular to do so in retail, though not necessarily as common as it is here to do it (because it's free here). And it is quite literally within the rules.


No, because that was exceptionally rare unless you were involved in RMT in retail, and is not within the rules here.


An advantage, perhaps, but not an unfair one, since anyone is allowed to dualbox.


You can do this too. I choose not to, you choose not to, and yet somehow only one of us is successful and not complaining.


"Chest poppers" in this sense don't exist and wouldn't for very long precisely because of what you just mentioned. The fact that you think keeping a char somewhere opening treasure chests is the big key to the 'dualbox unfair advantage' shows exactly how unaware and ignorant you are of how to succeed in FFXI.


It's nice. That's it. It's also nice not having to worry about gearing and EXPing 2 characters. "nice" doesn't mean "unfair advantage".

The majority of people arguing with you here don't dualbox, and the reason for that is they see exactly what the pros and cons are and decided for themselves that it's basically a wash if you have friends and a decent LS. Meanwhile, the LS you're in kicked me for kicking someone who had a pearl for <24 hours who:
1. Had to find a new shell because their leader got banned for the 3rd time for breaking the rules
2. Tried to send nudes to get that person unjailed
3. Expressed that they would harass me in the linkshell

Consider having better friends. Then you may not see the need to dualbox. The type that kick someone who's been there for a year because they kicked a girl are not going to be very helpful in the long run.

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