As a communication major, you're really tripping over your words quite a bit, and are having a great deal of trouble understanding my posts.

It's simple, really. You have 2 people. One of them plays 2 characters, the other plays 1. They are of equal skill. That means the first, playing 2, is playing each character at a level which is less than if they played 1, like the 2nd person does.

So, instead of inviting the person who plays 2 to play two, they play 1, and so does the 2nd person.

"What if you don't have 2 people?" Go ahead and play with the one guy that dualboxes then. No one said this wasn't OK. But given the option, which you should have if your LS makes any decent effort to recruit and train players to do their job well (meaning equal skill and availability), then each players should be playing each character to the best of their ability.

Either due to a fault in how players learn, or how they are taught to play (perhaps, due to a perception that they are better as 2 mediocre characters, or just laziness), I haven't seen a dualboxing player perform at a level that I know would have been their best on an individual character. That isn't meant to be insulting - it's just an observation - nor is it meant to exclude dualboxers from everything or anything.

There are some good dualboxers out there. I remember partying with Fid in the low 60s with his alt PLing, but there were still times that things happened slower than they should have because of him trying to play both characters. Why throw away your ability to perform your job the best you possibly can and replace it with mediocrity on 2 jobs? It doesn't help that in many cases, players seek to cheat with the 2nd character - specifically because they know they can't play 2. So many players get banned for having a PL curebot, it's absurd.

So, because I know those players could have done a better job playing 1 character, and I know that linkshells or groups in general could do a better job at filling those spots, I know that dualboxing is stupid.

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I'm a dual boxer.
I'd consider bouncing to a different server if my ability to play both characters at once was removed unless it was a hard server reset (all characters, ah, everything). Too many decisions made based on the current rules to toss half of my time spent.

Wrt playing both chars perfectly to be good, I disagree.

Me playing a DD perfectly is great.
Me playing a DD at 80% and a BRD at 80% is going to do a hell of a lot more for whatever event I'm at.

And if there are more than enough people for an event I'm the first to say "I'll drop my DD for another". I've never had to drop my support because we had too many supports.

Honestly, playing a DD is not hard at all. Next time you play a job actively think about how much time is spent waiting. Waiting for a recast timer, waiting for tp, waiting for a skill chain partner. All that time could be spent tossing out a roll, song, spell, or even hitting a different ja/ws macro.

FFXI is not hard.

Having a second character is just purely more efficient for anything you'd normally solo, and in my Nasomi experience 50% or greater of events.

To answer OP's question originally posted, BLM took me about 3 months to get 75, BRD took me about 10 days to get 75. However BLM I had to pause for farming, limit breaks, missions, etc....BRD I just plowed through. Take that as you will.

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It can be fast or it can be slow.

to get the fastest result, pick a job that everyone will fight over, doesnt need a lot of gear upgrades, and have a static group. you guarantee a pt asap and might take less than a month.

Yet, i recommend taking your time, and for gods sake farm and upgrade gear when necessary if not when possible XD
and please, enjoy your time.



for the life of me, i dont see whats problematic about this suggestion. i do use my mage to cure my thf while soloing with thf to get xp while seeking, it just help.

if you are going to dualbox, best way to do it imo is by having 2 jobs that dont affect each other. an example is a healer and DD, the DD will mostly be on auto, MOSTLY and specifically in lower lvls, unless going to use a JA, WS, or positioning for SATA, and mage will be healing, and if your pt has 2 ppl tanking with /nin for shadows.... no effect on your play mostly. this is more or less best scenario i could come up with.

on the other hand, playing as tank and puller in a fast paced pt would be a no no in my book as you just cant control both decently in the same time, or would be really stressed to enjoy yourself. you will either be too slow in pulling while focusing on tanking, or focus on pulling and neglect tanking which might cause a pt member death. think of playing as pld and trying to time your cure while pulling a mob that is rather far from the pt, even if doable (i did similar stuff in retail) it is just not enjoyable (at least for me).

Soloing is just a whole different story and it is up to you completely.

For end game, i prefer each person to have 1 character. if there is lack of members to do the event, one might dual a healer or DD to make the experience smoother, and should focus on his most important job, while supporting with the other one, and that should be communicated with the pt. example would be focusing on doing most damage while throwing a heal to help in the event with the alt mage, or the other way around.

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I guess I don't see the point in a comparison if everything else isn't equal.

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I'd rather exp with certain dual boxers that I know than a large chunk of Nasomi's population.

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You'd party with them regardless of their dualboxing, methinks.

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That's ignoring his point. Everything isn't equal, that's why the comparison is actually useful. I've partied with a numerous dualboxers that I'd prefer partying with than 65% of the people I get lumped together with in a random group when I just seek.

Your reasoning for not dual boxing is assuming everyone is equal, at which point then you might as well take two people to control two characters. That's very true. I'd rather have Fid and a person equal to Fid in my party on two characters. The reality? I can actually choose between Fid and Minifid or Fid and Godz. At which point I'd rather just jump off a cliff. The problem is that not everyone is remotely equal.

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