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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:54 am 
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Once upon a time he didn't enforce this rule, I'm interested to know the checks done nowadays on it. I know mule slot is exp locked at 10, but the zone thing I'm not sure of. If it were me, I'd just use an app to track mules for outside zones and if they're in an outside zone for 2 consecutive checks, probably like 6 hours apart, I'd just set it to warp them to some obscure location like, bostonieux or under the star tree, or on an elevator in metal works xD. That's just me tho, i have no idea how he checks em these days, if anyone does know, please share? Cause I could really use whitegate access on my mule for mog locket also.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:20 am 
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nas has said on stream that you are allowed to drag your mule where necessary to complete all of the mission prereqs to access their mog locker. this was a specific and ad hoc exception to the rules being discussed here.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:00 pm 
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Ty going to try it with the subjob items i think, so.... If i get banned blame julia?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:21 pm 
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Julia wrote:
the mule rules don't actually prohibit triple boxing. why would you want to do it is another question


to assist in Kazham/Aht Urghan access. Using a single main/alt is the real help, and using both main/alt would make it a bit easier. It is more important to know if just the one can help or if we are only permitted to buy access.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:07 pm 
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Kaijikun wrote:
Can my main/alt/both help my mule to gain access to Aht Urghan/Kazham or is my only option to pay the 500k/148k fee?


Yes, I have my moglocker maxed on my mule and got it doing the subjob items. But in the spirit of the rules, you should only help your mule with one character. Pretending to be a lawyer will only help you as much as nas allows it to. Only move it to where is necessary out in the field.

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Can my mule follow my main/alt/both to town to assure their safety if I am doing so purely for travel?


Yes, but again, 2 characters in the field at one time will just make anything you do look better to nas.

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Can my mule do supply quests / gain telepoints to make traveling between towns easier?


Anything you do out in the field on your mule would need to be defensible should nas ever investigate. Id stick to the ones that are otw to city zones that make sense. Like valkurm and bubu. Maybe the starting 3 for travel, but I use the airship.

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Can my mule gain reputation for the purpose of purchasing rank items from the Conquest Overseer?


Ranking up requires you to do more out in the field than simply level to 10 or travel between city zones. Dont recommend this.

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Can my mule gain fame for the purpose of buying/selling items from/to NPC for a better price?


Can it be done in a city zone? Then yes.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:40 pm 
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cthalupa wrote:
Starbright wrote:
I didn't mean he couldn't technically triple box the content, I meant he's not allowed to.


Original question: "Can my main/alt/both help my mule to gain access to Aht Urghan/Kazham or is my only option to pay the 500k/148k fee?"
Your answer: "yes, but you can't triple box the content.... so just take one with you"

The rules: "Each person will be permitted a maximum of ONE forum account, which can contain up to 3 game accounts, each with ONE character on them. The 3rd account will be limited to level 10 and is restricted to towns only." and "The use of more than three characters, of which the 3rd will be restricted to city/boat zones only."

As best as I can tell, your answer is incorrect. Based on how we interpret the rules regarding mules and travel in general, I don't see how using both characters to get your mule to Whitegate for the locker would be any more against the rules than the mule traveling in general.



Neat.

I was just letting him know what he’s actually allowed to do, and can get away with. Nas has said that you can do it.

Exe’s answer is definitely safer, I just know many people have the OPs for the starting cities.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:58 am 
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my bad. i forgot that you're the expert on how to avoid jail


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:22 pm 
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Julia wrote:
my bad. i forgot that you're the expert on how to avoid jail



At this point, fairly darn close.


Alas, while I enjoy your attitude, no... I'm merely telling the OP what Nas has said himself publicly.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:50 pm 
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i should premise this with a trigger warning

https://youtu.be/az_LWHlaGc0?list=TLPQM ... WPNQ&t=326

are you remembering a different statement?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:56 pm 
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nope, thats the statement. exactly what i said

it's allowed to get your mule access to whitegate... just don't get VE's ToD while youre doing it or something.

kudos for taking the time to find that clip. appreciate the support.

ya'll remember when Nas would say he'd have regular casts? lord that was a good time

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