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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:32 am 
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I agree that RNG should have a enmity drop if in the sweet spot. It is the only fair way to do this.

Side note: I think this nerf is to get people off of RNG and onto BLM more. With a nerf to range, THF/DRK/RNG/WAR all take a solo penalty. BLM and SMN are the two range attacking jobs unaffected by the recent nerf and SMN was more of a balancing.

Maybe in the future we get a vanilla Nasomi server? XD


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:41 pm 
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This is all fun, but I hate to break it to you: Nas seems perfectly happy with how RNG is now. Level and play a different job.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:16 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
This is all fun, but I hate to break it to you: Nas seems perfectly happy with how RNG is now. Level and play a different job.


Does anyone else find this "talking to a bearded brick wall" feeling absolutely frustrating?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:32 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Level and play a different job.


Yeah. Got a couple of level 70/71 RNGs who might not be too happy with that idea. But yeah, you're right I don't see anything getting changed any time soon.

He did eventually fix blm though, maybe he'll do the same with RNG. I don't know how all that started, I think there was a nerf implemented before I started playing back in November.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:26 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
This is all fun, but I hate to break it to you: Nas seems perfectly happy with how RNG is now. Level and play a different job.



Honestly I came to this conclusion last night as I was shooting mandies in my Khazam party and they ran back and forth between me, the other ranger and the tank. It's not going to get any better with the current state so why keep dumping money into it. That 3 million gil ebow sitting in my bazaar isn't going to sell even if i try with 13 on the AH and not a single one has sold since the nerf. I just spent almost all the rest of my gil gearing this job which is a bummer but I do see the writing on the wall. Nas broke ranged for pretty much every job and is ok with that.

I'm not sure which of my choices to go with

32 Warrior - I do like Warrior and had it at 75 back on retail, how do they stand up endgame to Samurai?
25 Bard - I just got mages ballad and took some time off because honestly this job bored me quite a bit, I know everyone says to stick with it but meh
53 Thief - I really like playing thief but slow invites and now broken soloing makes this seem like not the best choice

Need to unlock:
Samurai - my buddy is currently leveling it and he absolutely loves it
Red Mage - They seem in to be in short supply, people are always shouting for RDM for BCNMs, how do they stand up mid 60 through endgame?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:57 pm 
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I tried to explain to Nab, not too much avail, that it's literally impossible to make yalm distance influence the ranged formula and that not be a huge nerf. If Nas feels like that is the direction RNG should take on Nasomi, he's not going to do something stupid like artificially floor a combat skill to compensate. He doesn't believe there's anything to compensate for.

Macc was wrong, and that was fixed. RNG isn't wrong...... It's what he thinks it should be. If he changes his mind, great? I wouldn't hold my breath. Go find another job to love.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:31 pm 
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I mean heres my thing, why the hell is nas taking the time to code changes and nerfs and balances to jobs, when there are hundreds of bugs and other things on the server that are 10x more important or people actually want? Heres a few examples:

Massive Delays and Lag at HNM camps
ENMs
Nation missions
Blatant Navmesh errors
BCNM50s 60s
Apoc nigh
Bv2
CoP5-3 Tenzens path bugs

I could go on, but all of those things are original 05' era that nasomi wanted the server to be. That doesn't even include the shitshow that ToAU adds in to that. I think the main problem here is that if he wants to do changes and balances fine, but holy shit man, ask for help add devs and then if he doesn't trust them just review their code? The server runs off basic LUA scripts and C++ server coding, its literally the easiest thing to code and read.

I get if he doesn't want people to touch his server code, but let us submit LUA script fixes based off a github. So many people on the server are fluent in this and have dev'd for other private servers with little effort or error.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:42 pm 
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Aerec wrote:
I think the main problem here is that if he wants to do changes and balances fine, but holy shit man, ask for help add devs and then if he doesn't trust them just review their code? The server runs off basic LUA scripts and C++ server coding, its literally the easiest thing to code and read.

I get if he doesn't want people to touch his server code, but let us submit LUA script fixes based off a github. So many people on the server are fluent in this and have dev'd for other private servers with little effort or error.


It's being suggested every once in a while that we could help/contribute to Nasomi's codebase, but older players have mentioned that it happened before and Nas got burned from it and categorically refuses help from programmers since then. Unless Nas asks for help it's not going to happen. And my personnal take on this is that there were far more broken things 1-5 years ago than there are today, and I don't see why he'd suddenly ask for help when soon enough most story content will be in and there'll be just bugs and minor features to add in.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:52 pm 
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Aerec wrote:
why the hell is nas taking the time to code changes and nerfs and balances to jobs, when there are hundreds of bugs and other things on the server that are 10x more important


I think we've all been wondering this, especially us rangers who just got nerfed.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:59 pm 
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Velocity Shot would be a great way to help balance it out and I'd be all for it 100%, though it still wouldn't address the ranged accuracy issues (as far as I remember/what the wiki says, it didn't affect ranged accuracy). Maybe remove/severely scale back the r.acc nerf so that THF, COR, WAR, NIN (lolshuriken)/etc. aren't so dramatically hit, and then also implement VS to help make RNG itself stand out as the Ranged Attack king? Pretty please?

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