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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:18 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:28 pm 
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Also, in reply to all the "BST got nerfed now RNG turn" there's a difference between gutting a job that was in a fine spot in regards to other DDs and dmg dealt, and BSTs being able to solo Dynamis bosses among other things they shouldn't have.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:31 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
Also, in reply to all the "BST got nerfed now RNG turn" there's a difference between gutting a job that was in a fine spot in regards to other DDs and dmg dealt, and BSTs being able to solo Dynamis bosses among other things they shouldn't have.


It's possible RNG still fills roles that other jobs cant, but they definitely don't fill some of the roles that they shared with most melees anymore. Whether you think thats a good thing or not is up to opinion. There's always the argument that "we spend gil to do damage so we should do more" which is always lingering in the back of this debate that I'm not sure really how much validity it should hold. I think you still invite RNGs to merit PTs, but it will be introduced with "well do we have a solid tank to hold aggro for the majority of the fight" and if not, will this be worth inviting them.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:43 pm 
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lockecole777 wrote:
It's possible RNG still fills roles that other jobs cant, but they definitely don't fill some of the roles that they shared with most melees anymore. Whether you think thats a good thing or not is up to opinion. There's always the argument that "we spend gil to do damage so we should do more" which is always lingering in the back of this debate that I'm not sure really how much validity it should hold. I think you still invite RNGs to merit PTs, but it will be introduced with "well do we have a solid tank to hold aggro for the majority of the fight" and if not, will this be worth inviting them.


Where is RNG going to be viable that won't be outshined by other DDs now? I'm still unable to come up with any. KB? Bring your BLMs+SMNs. JLo? BLM+Excal. Cerb/Khim? Just bring regular DDs if you have to stand in TP range anyway.

Edit: Also not to mention my Amano is Trash tier now, I can't reach a 6hit without sacrificing too much in other slots. Glad these are the changes pushed instead of shit that we want as a server.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:52 pm 
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Quasi-amusing


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:15 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
lockecole777 wrote:
It's possible RNG still fills roles that other jobs cant, but they definitely don't fill some of the roles that they shared with most melees anymore. Whether you think thats a good thing or not is up to opinion. There's always the argument that "we spend gil to do damage so we should do more" which is always lingering in the back of this debate that I'm not sure really how much validity it should hold. I think you still invite RNGs to merit PTs, but it will be introduced with "well do we have a solid tank to hold aggro for the majority of the fight" and if not, will this be worth inviting them.


Where is RNG going to be viable that won't be outshined by other DDs now? I'm still unable to come up with any. KB? Bring your BLMs+SMNs. JLo? BLM+Excal. Cerb/Khim? Just bring regular DDs if you have to stand in TP range anyway.

Edit: Also not to mention my Amano is Trash tier now, I can't reach a 6hit without sacrificing too much in other slots. Glad these are the changes pushed instead of shit that we want as a server.


Like I said, "its possible." Most likely it'll just "be the best job option that specific person has" but by no means the best option overall to that fight.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:21 pm 
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MNK seems to do a fair bit of more damage now. Unfortunately, while testing I went against a beastman monk that had perma hundred fists and I had to warp out.

Has anyone tested if paralyze affects ranged attacks now?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:29 pm 
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lockecole777 wrote:
Like I said, "its possible." Most likely it'll just "be the best job option that specific person has" but by no means the best option overall to that fight.


And that is ok how? Nasomi says he doesn't want job stacking, changes like this are what lead to jobstacking. You nerf something so far into the ground people go level the new meta to actually play the game. Except even 2H DDs got shafted super hard with the delay/TP Gain changes.

EDIT: 1/9 AT POINT BLANK RANGE WITH MORE THAN 50% DAMAGE DROP OFF.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:37 pm 
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blm, bst, rng and fishing nerf within just a few months

i don’t want to be a whiner because I appreciate being able to play here. But, I have the feeling it’s not the right way to make the server more populous and the player base happy :/

sure there are things that are not completely fair, it will never be. But it does sucks to be taken away things that were thought givens. Someone might have leveled a class because it is slightly stronger, pretty devastating for the players that have worked for that. Are others happy about ohers misfortune? Pretty sure they wouldn’t be as passive if their own main job was nerfed.

As for fishing, if this was done for bots, its even more hindering for real players. No one fish giving it it’s full attention. It is mindless and it will always be... People want to watch tv and other things at the same time, to realize after a while they need to move. Why?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:45 pm 
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I personally love this update. Rangers are meant for ranged distance. That's in their name: "range"r. They're still very useful for all facets of the game.

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