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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:22 pm 
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Not even the DRKs, notably edgy class, didn't whine that hard when their job was normalized.

Also, wtb working Flashy Shot.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:23 pm 
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Shikishima wrote:
I hit 75 BST in 2004. BST was never "good", sorry to say. It had the potential to solo some things otherwise not able to be soloed at the time, such as Ancient Goobbue. The job was always useless when it came to endgame. Show any decent LS a line up of jobs they want for their endgame content and BST would be tied for last pick with PUP.

We should get Nas to remove the threat gain from Reward now to make BST REALLY retail accurate IMHO.


Agreed - also remove akamochi and marinara pizza. Only really bad players will play BST at this point anyway .. or people that are extremely bored. There will be niche spots like Cadearva Mire and some BCNM/KSNM but it's useless. He should put Snarl in to make it fun at least. That's when BST was the best. I solo'ed 1-75 before Snarl, character got deleted and then I did it again. I know all about the pains of playing BST, not ez mode like this server. Either way it sucks to have wasted all those merits in a job that's back to being useless when it was a useful job on this server. 50% of the stuff on this server is out of era, just a bunch of cry babies that don't like BST want to focus on BST though, oh well.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:25 pm 
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Shikishima wrote:
Not even the DRKs, notably edgy class, didn't whine that hard when their job was normalized.

Also, wtb working Flashy Shot.


I have a 75 DRK and it's still super strong. I'd wager I'll get a pt on DRK before BST xD Hilarious post.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:26 pm 
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The whining season has overstayed its welcome, it is quite transparent that people complaining about BST have put so much work in the job solely because they wanted to use it for exploiting before that door was slammed in their face.

There are still people who play BST because they have fun, imagine that! And SMN, and BLM, for that matter.

+1. I think Lolbst has had the most reasonable outlook on all of this. Stop complaining, appreciate what you have and move forward. In time, things will only continue to get better.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:37 pm 
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I love how people make demands for things. There's not much of a dialogue just flat out demand. Tell me how that works out for you in life :P

Give up the idea that things need to be identical to retail and just enjoy the current ride you are on.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:38 pm 
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i dont get it..

he made so all of those merits are now correctly working for BST.

it's a trash job for most things, and it's correctly now a trash job. Spending a lot of time in something you know isn't working correctly runs the risk of having that time proven wasted, aside from the things gained while it wasn't.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:41 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
i dont get it..

he made so all of those merits are now correctly working for BST.

it's a trash job for most things, and it's correctly now a trash job. Spending a lot of time in something you know isn't working correctly runs the risk of having that time proven wasted, aside from the things gained while it wasn't.


Yeah, I really hate this victim mentality a lot too.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:54 pm 
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BST atm


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:01 pm 
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Shikishima wrote:
There's a difference between a marginally better food versus having a level 85 pet in a 75 era, with insane Reward numbers and a reduced recast. I have merits in Mantra and Flashy Shot, I'm not here begging for my merits back. You merited Affinity specifically because it was busted. Now it isn't. Deal with it.

Every single person who has complained about BST since the nerf didn't play retail BST, or played it post-Abyssea where jug pets were godly.


Yeah, the whining is really too much. No one cares about people who only wanted BST to be wickedly OP; it's just obnoxious. Be happy that you got to use it instead of bitter that things are now more reasonable. We've still got teleporting jugs and enmity boost from Reward, right? Still better than retail.

BST is what I came to Nasomi for. It was neat that it was OP for a bit, but that's not why I wanted to play BST. It isn't a cadillac, it's a toyota. It'll get you around and it'll do the stuff it's meant for, but not much else. If you were only relying on jugpets to play the job, it sounds like you don't what the job's best at: soloing with charmables.


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Piellar wrote:
The whining season has overstayed its welcome, it is quite transparent that people complaining about BST have put so much work in the job solely because they wanted to use it for exploiting before that door was slammed in their face.

There are still people who play BST because they have fun, imagine that! And SMN, and BLM, for that matter.

+1. I think Lolbst has had the most reasonable outlook on all of this. Stop complaining, appreciate what you have and move forward. In time, things will only continue to get better.


Yup. Putting merits into something you know is WAY beyond where it should be, and then complaining when that massive advantage gets taken away, is dumb. The only thing complaining is going to do (bare minutes after the update, too) is annoy others and cause them to take concerns about the job less seriously. Getting hyperbolic and dramatic helps nothing. Let's give it a few more updates, see what was actually intended with the update, and then present a case like fucking adults, if one still feels the need.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:07 pm 
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Any bets on which job gets “major adjustments” next? I need to pick another job to get to 75 post-nerf like I did BLM and SMN :3 (that said, I still feel like I contribute plenty on endgame stuff as either of those jobs.. I just don’t join a dozen other SMN and spam p.claws on every hard mob until it dies these days.. sometimes I go RNG instead!).

On another note, I’m still sitting here away from home wondering what Wyvern Adjustments means, and the anxiety is killing me softly~

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