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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:47 pm 
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PasqualeOmega wrote:
Also about people leaving the zone and just leave a small amount to form an hold party in case of rage.. absolutely No , you need as many ppl as possible to try the claim after the wipe . It doesnt work.


Well no... obviously if every LS has 6 people there to try and claim after a wipe, they have the same % odds of claiming as if every LS has 16-18 people there. That's kinda how logic works.

Now.. It obviously doesn't work, because we're playing a video game and no one would ever actually abide by that when Nidhogg pops and it seems like someone is struggling. Just saying, if somehow people actually did abide by that, it would obviously be just fine.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:47 pm 
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Also this is for leadership to discuss. Not every single troll on the forums to try to derail it.


I have bad news if this was aimed at me. :)

In the number of posts you've claimed it's too confusing to type out on the forum, you could've already just typed it out on the forum.

I missed your earlier edit.... That's, generally speaking, true. Ignoring your last thread that was created.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:52 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Maseki wrote:
Also this is for leadership to discuss. Not every single troll on the forums to try to derail it.


I have bad news if this was aimed at me. :)

In the number of posts you've claimed it's too confusing to type out on the forum, you could've already just typed it out on the forum.


No no actually I wasn't talking about you at all, I'm literally saying it's for leadership to get together and discuss what's best for the LS. Maybe actually hear it out, take it back to their LS discuss it after we've gone through kinks then reassemble and go through what issues each LS has.

This isn't an overnight thing, it's also not as easy as "let's do it!". There's a lot of people involved and different mindsets.

That's why I'm saying it's not for forums

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:53 pm 
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I think you'd probably have to give an idea of what your idea is before anyone would be willing to actually consider that time well spent.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:53 pm 
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I'm gonna be blunt and say it. Topshelf was on board with the idea awhile back when I spoke with leadership but they didn't trust Atma. They did however give me the go ahead with the idea.

Since then Atma leadership and members have changed, a lot has changed. It may be worth a re visit.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:58 pm 
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There’s also now quite a few more active LS’s going to camps than before.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:59 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
There’s also now quite a few more active LS’s going to camps than before.


Absolutely, it still covers all of that. I'm just trying to attempt to bring some sort of solution to the table. I don't believe in bitching just to bitch. When I see problems arise I try to solve them the best I can.

Absolute worst case scenario is we get together, talk a bit and at least become amicable even if it doesn't work out.

Wars start because of hate. Most wars are solved with discussions. Not sure it's the best reference but the point is there.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:14 pm 
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If you want to suggest we take turns, it's not going to work. We have had 6 or 7 linkshells showing up the past few days. No one is going to wait 2 weeks for their turn.

Best thing Nasomi can do is either fix the lag (possibly very hard or very expensive, if it requires server-side hardware upgrades) or work on giving us Einherjar. I for one know I would be unlikely to go back to Dragon's Aery (at least when it's cramped) if I could get abjurations from Odin.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:17 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
PasqualeOmega wrote:
Also about people leaving the zone and just leave a small amount to form an hold party in case of rage.. absolutely No , you need as many ppl as possible to try the claim after the wipe . It doesnt work.


Well no... obviously if every LS has 6 people there to try and claim after a wipe, they have the same % odds of claiming as if every LS has 16-18 people there. That's kinda how logic works.

Now.. It obviously doesn't work, because we're playing a video game and no one would ever actually abide by that when Nidhogg pops and it seems like someone is struggling. Just saying, if somehow people actually did abide by that, it would obviously be just fine.



It doesn't work because --> example : X linkshell has 6 ppl total camping today Y linkshell has a full ally camping today , Linkshell Z claim and they probably going to wipe , are you telling me linkshell X and Y should leave 6 people each? that's unfair for linkshell Y who had 3 times ppl compared to linkshell X and more chanche to claim after the wipe.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:04 pm 
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PasqualeOmega wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
PasqualeOmega wrote:
Also about people leaving the zone and just leave a small amount to form an hold party in case of rage.. absolutely No , you need as many ppl as possible to try the claim after the wipe . It doesnt work.


Well no... obviously if every LS has 6 people there to try and claim after a wipe, they have the same % odds of claiming as if every LS has 16-18 people there. That's kinda how logic works.

Now.. It obviously doesn't work, because we're playing a video game and no one would ever actually abide by that when Nidhogg pops and it seems like someone is struggling. Just saying, if somehow people actually did abide by that, it would obviously be just fine.



It doesn't work because --> example : X linkshell has 6 ppl total camping today Y linkshell has a full ally camping today , Linkshell Z claim and they probably going to wipe , are you telling me linkshell X and Y should leave 6 people each? that's unfair for linkshell Y who had 3 times ppl compared to linkshell X and more chanche to claim after the wipe.


It's only unfair if you're unable to envision a time when Linkshell Y would be the group with less people.

And, if you ignore that, in the scenario you mentioned... X could leave 2, and Y could leave 6 to maintain the ratio. I didn't realize you had to forfeit common sense to use the forums.

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