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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:24 am 
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Viktoriya wrote:
I'm going to say the opposite and call that whole situation retarded. Godmode panic'ed and acted prematurely and this ended up becoming a huge memey shitshow. If my host tells me that a C&D letter was sent via email and you then also tell me that an official notice will be making its way to me via certified mail, i'm not acting on it until I get the official certified notice in my hand. I understand this was probably an "oh shit moment" for him, shit got real, and you're probably out there in panic mode while seeking advice from people in the law arena about it. In this regard, I totally understand his decision.

As for the host, how does the host not get back to its customer, days after an alleged C&D letter has been potentially sent by a multi-billion dollar company who just issued some potential legal threats against one of your clients? Is the host locked down in Quarantine in Wuhan or something? How do you pay for a service and not have customer service all over it within 24 hours after the incident? I find it insanely hard to believe he has not heard back from the host this long into the process.

Something doesn't add up here to me.

This is actually totally common in a lot of service based industries. You pass along what you have and then you keep your mouth shut 100% until you have anything else to pass along. You don't speculate, you don't answer the customer's questions, you don't do fucking anything until your lawyer has document in hand and tells you what is in your best interests from a legal perspective.

Not saying this is legitimate because I don't have a clue, but you definitely cannot take radio silence from the service provider as an indicator of anything whatsoever.

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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:27 am 
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Sharkbite wrote:
Just a bunch of stupid kids who know nothing, also dirt poor irl.

No one sends a letter they are sending a C&D Lol they just send the C&D

Gullable children

I received a digital C&D in 2006. Two weeks later, I received the physical copy.

And that was 14 years ago. If you think things haven't gotten further into the realm of mostly digital, you're nuts.

This is one of the primary purposes of those abuse email fields are for in your WHOIS when you register a domain.

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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:31 am 
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Sharkbite wrote:
No, no one sends a notice they are sending a C&D not ever. No one sends a digital copy ever, and certified mail is also a dead giveaway

a c&d would typically be delivered by a process server if it was real

again

almost everyone who plays on both servers and even the admins are just dirt poor children who know nothing, you are lumping your time into a dead / illegal server and for what? Your progress will just get deleted eventually, you cant "Save" your game on fatkidonline ffxi servers

A process server? You've got no idea what you're talking about.

A cease & desist is basically never served in person. It's not a legal filing, it's a notice to stop doing what you're doing or you will have a lawsuit on your hands. Most states don't even have any requirements on how you present the C&D - you could tell someone on discord chat to C&D and it would be fine. You don't even have to send anyone a C&D - you can immediately sue someone.

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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:32 am 
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Kazen wrote:
So you are saying there was A donate button on a third party private server, much like the one in the past that got a C&D had. Glad we agree.


Except the one on that other server was used for the server itself, specifically for buying ingame items. Guessing you're a troll as well, cause no way somebody's that dumb lol

cthalupa wrote:
A process server? You've got no idea what you're talking about.

A cease & desist is basically never served in person. It's not a legal filing, it's a notice to stop doing what you're doing or you will have a lawsuit on your hands. Most states don't even have any requirements on how you present the C&D - you could tell someone on discord chat to C&D and it would be fine. You don't even have to send anyone a C&D - you can immediately sue someone.


He's a troll, don't pay attention to 'em and he'll scurry away.


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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:35 am 
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Inecroloot wrote:
Kazen wrote:
So you are saying there was A donate button on a third party private server, much like the one in the past that got a C&D had. Glad we agree.


Except the one on that other server was used for the server itself, specifically for buying ingame items. Guessing you're a troll as well, cause no way somebody's that dumb lol


But both servers DID have some sort of donation button on their website, correct?

ETA: I'm dumb for pointing out the most likely reason Eden got a C&D(if it's real).

ETAA: Some WoW private servers were eventually hit with a C&D after having donation buttons/sub fees.

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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:49 am 
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Inecroloot wrote:
Kazen wrote:
So you are saying there was A donate button on a third party private server, much like the one in the past that got a C&D had. Glad we agree.


Except the one on that other server was used for the server itself, specifically for buying ingame items. Guessing you're a troll as well, cause no way somebody's that dumb lol

cthalupa wrote:
A process server? You've got no idea what you're talking about.

A cease & desist is basically never served in person. It's not a legal filing, it's a notice to stop doing what you're doing or you will have a lawsuit on your hands. Most states don't even have any requirements on how you present the C&D - you could tell someone on discord chat to C&D and it would be fine. You don't even have to send anyone a C&D - you can immediately sue someone.


He's a troll, don't pay attention to 'em and he'll scurry away.


I'd take 10,000,000 trolls over a single SE task force member trying to circle jerk any narrative into something that gives them enough to warrant any action detrimental to our leisure here.

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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:27 am 
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to be fair, you can donate money to nasomi to feed his beer habit

https://streamlabs.com/nasomi

im just glad nas doesn't drink natty


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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:26 am 
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Oo sharkbite made and edited out a comment about using that fishbot. He must be that dude who got banned over there and was trying to buy himself back in with rl cash. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:23 am 
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Can donate to ninja via mixer on whatever game he plays also, you're buying nas a beer for his streams, the fact he also is the admin of a private server is irrelevant. I could easily name off 50 streamers on twitch that you can donate to, the developers of whatever game they're playing or talking about on their streams, don't receive any royalties from their streams. A far cry from a donate button on the homepage of the server. I scrutinized the buy a beer button on his streaming page personally when I first seen it, but once it was explained to me, I can't really find any reason to ostracize him for it. The same as if, Ninja were to open a public free to play private server for kotor or mabinogi or some shit, would he have to never accept a donation from streaming fortnite again? Or never mention his private server in a stream again? I'm not a lawyer but not likely. He can say what he wants on his streaming, and people can give what they want to see more of it. I'm sure anyone that wants to think they have some grounds to argue that, would happily argue about it, but.... Eh fk em, doesn't really matter what's presented in that context, nasomi still the only rich kid i trust with my data. I'd be more easily convinced to find a reason to support him, than to find a reason he should be stopped, ~just sayin, <3's tho

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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:52 am 
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How did a thread about other private server end with 13 pages of comments and interest?

LOL


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