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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:56 pm 
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EggsAisle wrote:
Yes I was holding this ownm solo.


While you were being a scumbag, mpk/exploits are never the answer. These are the things you open yourself up to when doing this though. Remember folks, don't be the next Rixx.

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:45 pm 
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Didnt RFK did hide to a KB to yes? and steal it @2% or 1%?


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:46 pm 
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KivyinShiva wrote:
Didnt RFK did hide to a KB to yes? and steal it @2% or 1%?


Whataboutism at it's finest.

Protip: Someone in RFK didn't magically make the Yes person use Hide with hate. And if an RFK THF had hate outside alliance, that's a problem on Yes' end not RFKs.

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:52 pm 
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EggsAisle wrote:
Yes I was holding this ownm solo. But I had every intention of killing it in a timely fashion. It is possible to fail to kill it within 20minutes but it's not against the rules to 'not be good enough to kill it within 20mins'.

This ownm group clearly didn't have claim on it at the time they had 17+ leaches on them missing autos on them. They knew what would happen when Sleepga landed and hit ownm+the leaches they were dragging around. Every one of them used a JA ability within seconds to steal it.

If this exploit is not bannable, even after they admit they did it. Then let the games begin at every NM/HNM! The last group to have claim as NM dies wins!


I don't think there's any real proof here that anyone intentionally did this. Would maybe have to see this video. Like you said, they had leeches on them. You can say they knew, but no one really know what they were thinking right now.

Maybe if you hadn't been there solo and holding it for ~10 minutes it wouldn't have happened.

Really think this post is probably just another attempt to get someone banned over what amounts to a trivial matter in which no one involved really looks all that good. Should probably be dropped, who cares.

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:58 pm 
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EggsAisle wrote:
Yes I was holding this ownm solo. But I had every intention of killing it in a timely fashion. It is possible to fail to kill it within 20minutes but it's not against the rules to 'not be good enough to kill it within 20mins'.


lol... not good enough to kill it within 20mins, doesn't get any richer than that.

Not sure how well this has aged since it was from 2018 but let's take a look at this: viewtopic.php?t=6275&start=10

"Holding mobs for any length of time is against the rules. You can only hold HNMs for some time (Knight Crabs arent HNMs, btw).

Players have been deleveled/jailed for holding mobs without killing them. If you claim a mob, you must make a conscious effort to kill it. No bullshit "I'm killing it, just slowly :)))))))))))" memes either. Nas doesn't care about your attempt to tiptoe over the line. You should send nas the screenshots you took if this inconvenienced you enough."

I don't have a problem with Libra getting banned, might as well <3
But if you're so righteous, you should be going down too :)


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 11:06 pm 
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KivyinShiva wrote:
Didnt RFK did hide to a KB to yes? and steal it @2% or 1%?

An RFK THF got hate on KB after Yes used the zone to tank it for over an hour and a half. He used hide while KB was hitting him. If you've spent over an hour not tanking a mob, you're kinda at fault there.

RFK did not get the KB. TS claimed it and killed it.

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 11:08 pm 
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What about aspid? to yes to?


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 11:10 pm 
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tucu wrote:
lol... not good enough to kill it within 20mins, doesn't get any richer than that.

Not sure how well this has aged since it was from 2018 but let's take a look at this: viewtopic.php?t=6275&start=10

"Holding mobs for any length of time is against the rules. You can only hold HNMs for some time (Knight Crabs arent HNMs, btw).

Players have been deleveled/jailed for holding mobs without killing them. If you claim a mob, you must make a conscious effort to kill it. No bullshit "I'm killing it, just slowly :)))))))))))" memes either. Nas doesn't care about your attempt to tiptoe over the line. You should send nas the screenshots you took if this inconvenienced you enough."

I don't have a problem with Libra getting banned, might as well <3
But if you're so righteous, you should be going down too :)

Nabutso also said it was within the rules to delete/recreate characters to do scroll quests. Nasomi has said on stream multiple times this is against the rules.

https://na.nasomi.com/rules.php has actual rules here though, so thankfully we don't have to rely on the interpretation of a literal nazi who has since left the server:

Quote:
• Holding a Notorious Monster without intent to kill or alter spawn time while other players are waiting.
• Notorious Monsters can be held a maximum of 4 hours to alter spawn times.


Seems unlikely you can prove that Eggsy wasn't holding it with intent to kill it or move it's spawn time to one that would be more beneficial for his OWNM group.

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 11:13 pm 
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KivyinShiva wrote:
What about aspid? to yes to?

RFK has never used the AoE exploit to steal a claim.

We snatched Aspids that went unclaimed twice while Yes was dealing with large amounts of adds. Shield bash was the action used to get claim for RFK in both cases.

In the first case, Yes used a sleepga on their adds and regained claim on Aspid. This is what lead me to confirm AoEs steal claim and lead to me reporting it to Nas and in the bug thread.

In the second case, we gave the Aspid back to Yes for reasons unknown to me. They've stolen Aspid from us before when it bugged and we had only 1 add with 3 parties full of 6 people, so I don't really understand why we gave it back when they screwed things up themselves. But whatever, I wasn't there, and some people are apparently nicer than I am.

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 11:15 pm 
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Cherry_Bombs wrote:
I don't think there's any real proof here that anyone intentionally did this. Would maybe have to see this video. Like you said, they had leeches on them. You can say they knew, but no one really know what they were thinking right now.

Maybe if you hadn't been there solo and holding it for ~10 minutes it wouldn't have happened.

Really think this post is probably just another attempt to get someone banned over what amounts to a trivial matter in which no one involved really looks all that good. Should probably be dropped, who cares.

There is zero legitimate reasons a level 75 would have all of those leeches on them or need to sleepga them. They're mobs in the mid 20s.

This is quite obviously intentional.

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