just feel like it needs to be said:

I dont have the same moral issues as Exelyon, and if any/all CC want to price fix.. Let me know. If we want to eff up that Federation Gi market, holler.

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This is false, as cookingkitty began selling hq staves late summer/early fall when the prices were still absurd following the crafting change last may. Cookingkitty's bazaar dissapeared for a couple months, maybe you were on vacation or something, idk. Then cookingkitty sadly returns to undercut again, but luckily your gsm wasnt leveled, so you were quickly cut out by bead prices being too high. But sadly for us, you then leveled gsm and hopped right back in, a THIRD time. All three times you raised prices on ore and undercut prices on staves, trying to take market share, make friends with miners, and push others out to make room for yourself.




This is complete bullshit, lol. The established crafters that had been pricing matching for years, were the ones to undercut you first? Not you, the fresh new 106 trying enter the market and make their money back as fast as possible. Riiiiiiiiight. Feter and I have been pricing matching for years, but obviously the constantly repeating meme on this server of new crafter entering markets and undercutting just didnt happen in your case.




It's actually not fine, as there are 20 some wws that make staves here and there, and the price of ore is how the supply of ore entering the market is managed. You just wanted to monopolize as much of the supply as you could. Your prices when youre the only person selling an item are absolutely stupid high.




Because when customers see you have plenty of stock, they wont be in a hurry to buy, and will generally not buy, but send you tells asking for deals instead. Which just lowers the overall price of the items as the crafters that arent getting tells lower their prices to get sales. When customers see you have multiple of an item, you stand out better on the bazaar page. It's like how you stood front and center in lower jeuno when people came from the moghouse, youre just an aggressive advertiser and marketer of yourself. Or when you moved yourself directly in front of me, but not quite close enough to the AH to buy, that was actually "cute". It's pretty simple that getting out advertised and out marketed will often result in a loss of business, especially when there is no distinction in our products, because theyre identical video game pixels.




Yeah I am. Price is something that manages supply of an item. It's easy to find an equilibrium where everyone is happy, if people simply compete for ore at good prices and match staff prices at good prices. But instead you enter the market butchering said equilibrium. Even if I was open to price fixing, I still wouldnt negotiate with a terrorist.




Yes, you finally started following those rules in the last couple of months after you saw what you did to the staff market.

Anything else I can clear up?

I think I've found the disconnect. Essentially you expect anyone who enters the market to match your prices to a tee, which is already a little absurd, but on top of this you expect them to do so without even mentioning such to them. And when they come to you and ask to discuss pricing, you don't accept, you don't decline, you just ignore it. And after this somehow you expect things to end well. Without communication prices will only continue to drop until the point where all other competition has decided it isn't worth their time, which by the way we still aren't there. People like to act like this is awful but it isn't, there's a long way to go until the bottom. I've accepted that the market is going this way long ago should others continue to be prideful and arrogant, and I'm absolutely okay with it.

Pretty much a fair reaction from any crafter, IMO. If they price match you, after you undercut them, then dont undercut again.

Next time I suggest you use your words. <3

It's not about matching prices to a tee, it's about seeing the current market rate and fitting in with that instead of undercutting for quick sales. Like I've said in the past, I had OWNM drops at a pretty high price point, groups who didn't do OWNMs daily would snag a few drops, undercut the market 10-20% then not show up at OWNMs for a few months.

I found out the hard way about posting multiple items. I had 5 Lynx Leather in my bazaar, I never gave a deal for these but people would send tells daily asking for a price cut, yet wouldn't buy from AH or bazaar when you tell them no. When I started stacking the leathers in my bazaar as well as putting only 1-2 on AH, I'd sell about 1 per day.



People act like this is awful because markets have been steady for years before you entered them, that's the entire premise of his post.

Edit: Why make many sale when 1 sale do trick?

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Right, I did back when you first hit 100 ww and started shitting all over the market, we had this convo. Then you lost that courtesy for several months by being an extremely slow learner, something more and more people are agreeing on.

Yep

Incorrect. We've never had any conversation. I've literally never received a tell from any of your characters. Either you're confusing me with someone or outright lying. I'll choose to be courteous and assume the former.