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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:06 pm 
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The people in my LS that have jobs that can handle the OWNMs have been doing them. We got a refresh the other night. We're all new to the server, we don't have many options. It's just frustrating for me personally cause I only have DRK on the 40+ table right now and as a result the most I can add to their attempts is 20 damage bolts. I just don't even go along on those runs now cause it's a waste of time, the ones that have jobs just find other randoms and strike deals for the drops to reduce the loads on our members that need the items. It's just not fair for me to go along and suck a loot slot over finding other ranged jobs.

So forgive me if voicing my frustration over the above comes across as whiny or sitting on our butts doing nothing about it. I have other jobs on the way but everything takes time.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:06 pm 
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Aselius wrote:
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To be fair we're really just all asking for A, which I don't think is unreasonable to start getting a little frustrated at after an entire month. Once that happens we can just go back to pretending OWNMs don't exist and be happy.


Well people keep suggesting alternatives or complaining about the Ownm strategies/difficulty, as if to say, well fix this or fix this or fix that. Ownms most likely arent getting overhauled, bcnm are most likely having security leaks patched. I would like bcnms back as well, or to fight ownms on my pld without having to kite, but the fact of the matter is there isnt just 1 thing that needs fixing or adjusting at a time. If nas is in the middle of fixing bcnm exploits, thats what hes working on, rushing him is not going to help.

Been a month? Not for nothing, could have had a job for ownms and been had the items you needed by now if yall would just do what you need to do. We want nas to do all this work, but we arent putting in the extra work, why should he?

I don't even 100% agree with some of what i said, but we gotta do what we gotta do to make things happen. I'm not looking to get into arguments over this, i'm just looking to get everyone on the same page. BCNM is the thing we're trying to get fixed, keep it to that.

Pst Aselius in game if you want to talk about alternate strategies, I've had success face tanking even the level 20 ownms, but its not easy and there are certainly prerequisites to do it, a fresh level 20 is probably not going to cut it.

Rant over, sorry if i offend, not my intention


i just wish there were more strategies than 1 for ALL of the ownms.. that's not to much to ask is it? Edit the move list of a few to provide some variety

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:43 am 
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To be fair they really were only supposed to be a temporary solution, its fine that they're all the same honestly, or rather it would be if at least some of the BCNMs were enabled. Honestly it wasn't really that big of a deal before, it's only a big deal now because people HAVE to do them.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:02 pm 
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Gweivyth wrote:
To be fair they really were only supposed to be a temporary solution, its fine that they're all the same honestly, or rather it would be if at least some of the BCNMs were enabled. Honestly it wasn't really that big of a deal before, it's only a big deal now because people HAVE to do them.


true, very true.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:19 pm 
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Are ALL of the BCNMs disabled? I thought I read on the wiki there are a handful of them active?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:12 am 
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The drops are disabled. You can still fight them if you like.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:51 pm 
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gonztok wrote:
Are ALL of the BCNMs disabled? I thought I read on the wiki there are a handful of them active?


To better answer this question:

The wiki lists bcnms that work. They do definitely work differently than retail.

What this thread frequently references is the fact that Nasomi discovered some people cheating to reuse bcnm orbs, allowing infinite runs. He's turned them off while fixing to prevent this cheating from occurring.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:35 pm 
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Considering that Refresh and Utsusemi: Ni are MANDATORY spells for their respective jobs and the fact that BCNMs are not functional i think it should be sold by NPCs for a reasonable price for a level 30-40 character.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:29 am 
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Spectreman2017 wrote:
Considering that Refresh and Utsusemi: Ni are MANDATORY spells for their respective jobs and the fact that BCNMs are not functional i think it should be sold by NPCs for a reasonable price for a level 30-40 character.


It's actually fairly obvious that there is more supply than demand on refresh but the people selling are being greedy. 3 sold in the last 15 days yet there are 9 on ah and the price isn't going down. You can also see evidence of speculation by blixa. I'd expect the price to go down soon if people keep killing ownms.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:18 pm 
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I don't think that's obvious at all, I think most people are like me where there's just no way I'm paying what people are asking. Would rather just wait for BCNMs.


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