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Epyon
 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 11:41 pm 
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So with these new discoveries, when is the best chance for HQ on wind synths?
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Aeroo
 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 1:01 am 
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inaringo wrote:
The best way to make money now is selling fish to the npc...


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 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 2:28 pm 
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inaringo wrote:
Ok to summarize changes:

-Subcrafts must now also be leveled to HQ.
-Moon phase, day, direction no longer give extra HQ above retail rates.
-Instead, they are now NECESSARY to reach retail rates.
-You now crit fail more on top of all this.

This is a massive nerf.


I think the bolded part is causing the most grief. New moons only come around roughly every 3.5 days. Then factor in real life and it's more like once every 10 days that it falls into your playtime. Especially if you're waiting for Darksday or the strong day for your synth.

If we want the rates to be like retail let's just scrap the moon/day/direction completely and stick to the simple HQ tiers based solely on your crafting skill level.
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Wolffhardt
 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 2:52 pm 
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Drexl wrote:
inaringo wrote:
Ok to summarize changes:

-Subcrafts must now also be leveled to HQ.
-Moon phase, day, direction no longer give extra HQ above retail rates.
-Instead, they are now NECESSARY to reach retail rates.
-You now crit fail more on top of all this.

This is a massive nerf.


I think the bolded part is causing the most grief. New moons only come around roughly every 3.5 days. Then factor in real life and it's more like once every 10 days that it falls into your playtime. Especially if you're waiting for Darksday or the strong day for your synth.

If we want the rates to be like retail let's just scrap the moon/day/direction completely and stick to the simple HQ tiers based solely on your crafting skill level.


From your mouth to god's ears.

I skipped taking up crafting, after reading all of it. Not because it's broken or anything, it just doesn't seem worth it now.

Hopefully he fixes that.

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Camper
 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 4:02 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Drexl wrote:
inaringo wrote:
Ok to summarize changes:

-Subcrafts must now also be leveled to HQ.
-Moon phase, day, direction no longer give extra HQ above retail rates.
-Instead, they are now NECESSARY to reach retail rates.
-You now crit fail more on top of all this.

This is a massive nerf.


I think the bolded part is causing the most grief. New moons only come around roughly every 3.5 days. Then factor in real life and it's more like once every 10 days that it falls into your playtime. Especially if you're waiting for Darksday or the strong day for your synth.

If we want the rates to be like retail let's just scrap the moon/day/direction completely and stick to the simple HQ tiers based solely on your crafting skill level.


From your mouth to god's ears.

I skipped taking up crafting, after reading all of it. Not because it's broken or anything, it just doesn't seem worth it now.

Hopefully he fixes that.


Could be a crafter's conspiracy to discourage new entrants.

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Wolffhardt
 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 4:10 pm 
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If crafters losing tons of money is their idea of a way to discourage new crafters, I say best of luck. :D

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Tibby
 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 6:47 am 
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Drexl wrote:
inaringo wrote:
Ok to summarize changes:

-Subcrafts must now also be leveled to HQ.
-Moon phase, day, direction no longer give extra HQ above retail rates.
-Instead, they are now NECESSARY to reach retail rates.
-You now crit fail more on top of all this.

This is a massive nerf.


I think the bolded part is causing the most grief. New moons only come around roughly every 3.5 days. Then factor in real life and it's more like once every 10 days that it falls into your playtime. Especially if you're waiting for Darksday or the strong day for your synth.

If we want the rates to be like retail let's just scrap the moon/day/direction completely and stick to the simple HQ tiers based solely on your crafting skill level.


Could you explain why the bolded part is true? How are those variables necessary?
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Nabutso
 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 2:37 pm 
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Tibby wrote:
Drexl wrote:
inaringo wrote:
Ok to summarize changes:

-Subcrafts must now also be leveled to HQ.
-Moon phase, day, direction no longer give extra HQ above retail rates.
-Instead, they are now NECESSARY to reach retail rates.
-You now crit fail more on top of all this.

This is a massive nerf.


I think the bolded part is causing the most grief. New moons only come around roughly every 3.5 days. Then factor in real life and it's more like once every 10 days that it falls into your playtime. Especially if you're waiting for Darksday or the strong day for your synth.

If we want the rates to be like retail let's just scrap the moon/day/direction completely and stick to the simple HQ tiers based solely on your crafting skill level.


Could you explain why the bolded part is true? How are those variables necessary?

You reach 10% HQ rate on tier 1 HQ synths on 0% new moon darksday now.

Previously, 10% HQ was reached at 50% moon neutral day.

Previously, you could reach 16% on 0% new moon darksday.

In retail, crafting direction, day, moon did not exist.

In retail, 10% HQ for tier 1 HQ synths was was was recorded.

So here, you now need to craft on 0% new moon darksday to reach retail rates.

Previously, you could craft on 0% new moon darksday to get better than retail rates.

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Aeroo
 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 4:10 pm 
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There's no such thing as 0% darksday.

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 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
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Aeroo wrote:
There's no such thing as 0% darksday.

Meant for comparison purposes. You want me to say 2% each time and have everyone be confused?

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