Hi,

Everyone please take a moment and relax. It was a question.

A few of the previous posts are a bit heated and this is a simple question that has been asked and many takes on the why not have been given. I've already had to start editing some of the posts and I'd like to not have to do anymore.

My personal take on this is, Nas is one guy that hosts and runs the server and hardware we are all joining. In addition to his full time job, family and adult type responsibilities (keeping kids off his lawn by chasing them down on his tractor i'd like to imagine) there are the tasks he has for maintaining a server that we all join. It's doubtful that any official discord server will be opened up, as running one of those means that in addition to the Discord Server rules, all additional rules of the server would need to be followed At the end of the day we are in a very gray area (well nah we breaking rules most likely) of the legality of playing on these servers as we bought the game and agreed to the SE rules not to do what we are doing when we all installed the game and started playing it. Discord may also not take kindly to this, but I'm not going to take the time to reread the SE or Discord Terms of Use/Service or reread the SE FFXI ones so I may be wrong.

As for the "it's easy to run one, I have my own/help ruin another Discord,"

Keep in mind that at this time some of, if not all of, the following are balls that Nasomi already has up in the air to juggle to keep things running,

All of which are operatined and ran on his own network and server structure, and not someone else's hosting/servers like a Slack or Discord would be.
* IIRC
* Forums
* WIKI
* (disabled) ticketing system
* Actual Game Stuff (Servers, Code, bug Fixes, Hacking Reports, Exploitation, harassment, content code tweaks/changes, bug reports for actual bugs and not bugged items alike, custom installers and updaters, new account system underway, etc.)
* Website updates (back and front end changes)

Non hosted tasks
* Social Media accounts
* SEO (site advertisements to make sure that the server is one of, if not the first one you see when you serach for servers.)
* Occasional calls about the network to his business ISP host (May 2017 anyone?)
* Purchase of new and replacement network hardware and back up power generation, physical modifications to his own house to handle the power and infrastructure.


I have 0% proof of this, but I suspect all software he has on said network and server and is part of Nasomi Services, so this may be a deal breaker for him.

All of the above, and more importantly, addition to the family, work and life balance mentioned above, there are other things he may be doing that would split his already thin time and make it even more thin. One more item to the list isn't going to have the benefits that this suggestion is likely attempting to solve, but I do see the draw to want something like this. It's likely why many endgame shells have something that they use outside the game, discord/forums/other things mentioned.

As for other things he may be having going on, I've not asked him about how Vangard is coming along as it seems like he has his hands full with just what he has on his plate right now and we won't see Vanguard. Mad hats off to the one-man army that is Nasomi. I'd have shut the game down by now if it was me as I'd never have a moment for myself and I'd go crazy.

These are my thoughts and opinions, like them, dislike them up to you. I just respectfully request you find a way to tell me how I'm wrong (lulz, but it's my opinion) in a constructive manner.

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Petz

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naschat isn't run on nas' network. Purposefully, so that when things go wrong, there is at least one off-site place for us to gather.

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I don't really get why people are that bothered about voice chat in this game. I mean sure if you have friends that you want to voice chat with that's fine but it should never be expected of anyone. I personally don't like to voice chat and it's actually pretty inconvenient for me to have to do so in any game. Back in retail our LS would have a Teamspeak which was used mainly for events and that was it. The wider community came from in-game chat and forums (Killing Ifrit before SE forums).

The main reasons I'm against this though are those that Petz has mentioned above. You can't expect Nasomi to manage a Discord channel on top of everything else he does for free, for a minority of people who are actually wanting it. Requests like this show a lack of understanding and appreciation for how this game is run, i.e. by one guy on his own with no financial reward.

Use Discord if you want, but set up and run your own and don't call it or treat it as a server Discord. I don't see what the problem is there.

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Zerion

There's nothing against voice chat or discord, there just isn't a server-wide one. Thinking back to moghouse server ls with 300-400 people, I can 100% understand why. That place was a cesspool of disgust and misinformation. About 2% of chat was actually useful, the rest just gave you a headache. That's why when the population was sufficient to support a hand full of full ls's, nas broke the shell and put in a 250 pearl limit, like what retail did. We top 1000 players daily, the population barely goes below 500 off peak. That many people in a single place would be madness.

Even if it was permitted, nas has already provided endless services to make possible what no one else, and no one else in their right mind would.

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