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Wolffhardt
 Post subject: Re: Mazurka Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:15 pm 
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exelyon wrote:
So long story short is that:


1. Mazurka needs to fall off when engaged in combat

2. Mob's should be able to look up hills.

3. Rampart should only block a certain amount of damage

4. Troubadour should not be 100% accuracy


I hope this isn’t ranked in some order, lol.

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...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


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Camper
 Post subject: Re: Mazurka Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:15 pm 
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Lyce wrote:
exelyon wrote:
So long story short is that:


1. Mazurka needs to fall off when engaged in combat

2. Mob's should be able to look up hills.

3. Rampart should only block a certain amount of damage

4. Troubadour should not be 100% accuracy


I think I've mentioned before I think it could be helpful to make a list of known bugs somewhere. Not sure how public that should be though, probably gets close to breaking the rule of "do not discuss how to circumvent the rules"


We tried in the Crafting forum and I believe it was deleted for that specific reason you mention.

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Wolffhardt
 Post subject: Re: Mazurka Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:18 pm 
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Serious question: How's Troubadour supposed to work? It seems like the Wiki even wasn't updated if someone figured out what unerring means?

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...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


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sojorner
 Post subject: Re: Mazurka Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:27 pm 
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what's stupid about this whole thread imo is that regardless of mazurka the outcome would of been the same. rather ppl had mazurka or not isn't really the issue here it's just a rant by someone pissed off.
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exelyon
 Post subject: Re: Mazurka Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:36 pm 
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Camper wrote:
We tried in the Crafting forum and I believe it was deleted for that specific reason you mention.


Despite my list not being in any order, the one that ive since deleted is slightly worse than the others. I'd rank the consequences of the bug you found as quite a bit worse than that one. Maybe this thread will get deleted too, making this wrong, but there needs to be a community list of things that arent like retail. While at the same time, some bugs becoming publicly known before Nas can fix them would just cause far too many problems.

And just so I dont get it thrown back in my face, if I have spent millions of gil testing and keeping data, and nabutso has stated that nasomi believes in, and nasomi has stated he believes in moon and day effect synths, then after the recent changes the best im going to do is report those finding to nasomi instead of making them public.
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Wolffhardt
 Post subject: Re: Mazurka Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:40 pm 
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exelyon wrote:
Camper wrote:
We tried in the Crafting forum and I believe it was deleted for that specific reason you mention.


Despite my list not being in any order, the one that ive since deleted is slightly worse than the others. I'd rank the consequences of the bug you found as quite a bit worse than that one. Maybe this thread will get deleted too, making this wrong, but there needs to be a community list of things that arent like retail. While at the same time, some bugs becoming publicly known before Nas can fix them would just cause far too many problems.

And just so I dont get it thrown back in my face, if I have spent millions of gil testing and keeping data, and nabutso has stated that nasomi believes in, and nasomi has stated he believes in moon and day effect synths, then after the recent changes the best im going to do is report those finding to nasomi instead of making them public.



bruh you were quoted like 5 times hahaa.

Yes, Camper's crafting bug has the potential of being way worse. The one you deleted, that is still on this thread like 5 times, is pretty freaking horrible too.... You didn't have any obligation to tell a soul about anything your testing revealed to you, and that's completely fine not to.

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Epyon
 Post subject: Re: Mazurka Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:42 pm 
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Whats really stupid about this thread is that Mazurka wasn't actually used on the window KB spawned by the ones who were kiting it. Couple meteors landed before the lag settled and then it was ballads on the mages and minuet/etudes on the rangers. Unbeknownst to him, Dashie is actually ranting about W. Legs and Striders movement effects stacking on RNG.


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exelyon
 Post subject: Re: Mazurka Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:47 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:

bruh you were quoted like 5 times hahaa.

Yes, Camper's crafting bug has the potential of being way worse. The one you deleted, that is still on this thread like 5 times, is pretty freaking horrible too.



Anyone who has read the thread can see it plain as day, but my edit was far too late youre right. Bugs that bring HQ items into existence at unfair rates to players that are aware of the bug ranks very highly for me in abusability, but im pretty biased.

Anyways, fix mazurka, rampart, troubadour, and probably a bunch of other stuff!
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Aeroo
 Post subject: Re: Mazurka Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:51 pm 
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Epyon wrote:
Whats really stupid about this thread is that Mazurka wasn't actually used on the window KB spawned by the ones who were kiting it. Couple meteors landed before the lag settled and then it was ballads on the mages and minuet/elegy on the rangers. Unbeknownst to him, Dashie is actually ranting about W. Legs and Striders movement effects stacking on RNG.

Damn dude you put elegy on your own ppl what kinda brd are you

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Epyon
 Post subject: Re: Mazurka Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:59 pm 
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Lol etudes* thanks
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