I imagine the person exploiting it has a ton in storage, but has been limiting the amount put on AH to avoid dropping the price. If it's truly an exploit should they have them removed from their inventory? I don't know how Nas handles something like that, but assuming the drop is removed from Charby, and devil manta's drop rate is left untouched it will skyrocket in price. You can see where this becomes an issue if someone already has a stock of 99 angel skins waiting to be sold lol.

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Historically people have lost their items when trying to do this sort of thing. But that isn't a guarantee.

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the problem is, take away the angel skins from charbybdis, which shouldn't be there, and not adjust the drop rate on devil manta, there will be no angel skins. This will result in no heca gear for players, the main problem is the devil manta drop rate, in retail you could spend 3 hrs down there fishing and get a skin or 2, here you can spend 3 days down there and lucky if you get 1.

Take a much larger sample and let me know the actual number of kills and the number of drops, please.

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I'm personally 1/50+ on this drop, I'm not wasting anymore of my time lol, also a ls mate with th4 said he's 0/32 recently, it's absurd.

Nas will probably double check the droprate when he removes the steal. At least, I told him he should probably double check...

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before fishing fix i would get like 1 skin every hour... after fix, i spent 6 hours before getting my first 1 it was like 1 in 35-40 kills with th4

If I'm given someone's word I would not have action taken against my account I could go waste my time for around a 100 kill sample size w/ hard evidence / data from a parser to prove it, but this will take multiple days/a week or more for me now. Not going to spend my entire playtime down there for multiple days straight again, but if there's a good chance of it helping get this fixed sooner then I would do it. I can without a doubt say my experience has been the same though being 1/32 with TH3. It was nowhere near that bad on retail, and it was always a hot spot for people looking to make gil. The fact that it's nearly never done here suggests to me there's a problem.


@Toruru 1 skin per hour from manta sounds quite a bit higher than average compared to retail too though. So that should have been fixed. Just saying

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On retail it def was a hot spot 5+ people there... we'd all party and talk and chill and it was your pop your drop was good times

This is pretty common knowledge. People haven't kept it a secret. When nas adds things to the game like this, I don't know why you think people should assume that it is an exploit that he hasn't removed.



He should also fix the non-aggro worms to be non-aggro and fix mob positioning. There were no mobs down by the lake except the VERY rare scorpion on retail.



I kind of doubt that, since, at least as I understand it, you can only steal one skin per Charybdis, and Charybdis has a lengthy respawn timer.