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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:26 pm 
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Options are good. Depending on your setup, some camps will be better than others.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:28 pm 
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rmackner wrote:
You don't really expect to get the best exp camp every single time you join a party do you?


Unless the second best is pretty close to the best, yes I do. If the only good camps are taken I use my time to do something else instead.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:39 pm 
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HarleyM wrote:
rmackner wrote:
You don't really expect to get the best exp camp every single time you join a party do you?


Unless the second best is pretty close to the best, yes I do. If the only good camps are taken I use my time to do something else instead.


GL with that mind set, the server keeps growing and congestion will only get worse. Sitting on the sidelines with your arms crossed as you wait for the best content in the game isn't helpful to the rest of the community. Put your flag up and enjoy more content that the game offers. Because unless we're talking about merit camps, the different in these exp camps aren't that much different (other then maybe the amount of effort you need to put into your job during that exp pt).

Though Harley's meta mind set is rare in the game. Most people are very willing to travel and kill things other than bats and lizards.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:41 pm 
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Just look at how busy the Tree is now compared to months ago. Almost always see at least 2 parties in their 60s there on Crawlers/Flies, almost always syncing down to 63-66 and using the two lower level camps in the big room.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:59 pm 
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Chakan wrote:
Just look at how busy the Tree is now compared to months ago. Almost always see at least 2 parties in their 60s there on Crawlers/Flies, almost always syncing down to 63-66 and using the two lower level camps in the big room.


And as per the 1% meta players, we should all get in a line for the best camps in the game. Anything less and you're better off just walking your dog. With the mindset of "the best in the game or it's not worth it" we just created even more congestion, grief, and drama. Funny because this very mindset is what made all MMO developers completely drop the open world design and instance everything.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:00 pm 
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You think every group will get in a line and play nice?

I typically search zones, look at the levels of the parties, and plan accordingly. Many don't bother and just show up...


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:10 pm 
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Chakan wrote:
You think every group will get in a line and play nice?

I typically search zones, look at the levels of the parties, and plan accordingly. Many don't bother and just show up...

No they will not and that was my point. Telling everyone that unless you exp in this one zone because you get 5% more exp then all the other camps doesn't do the server any good. If you want more congestion, this is how you get it lol. Well unless you guys really wanna go back to retail days of having 3 PT in a spot designed for one and having every member of the PT standing at a spawn point waiting. Funny because that got even worse in the ToAU days when TP burn PTs were the norm. You would get a invite to a area with 9 other PTs there already because hey "this is the best spot in the game!". And then naturally this brings the meta PT who will show up, sit on top of your PT and try to out pull you.

We all know the issues that this mindset brings and the rest of the mmo world disbanded the ideas of the exp PT because no one could play nice.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:56 pm 
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rmackner wrote:
No they will not and that was my point. Telling everyone that unless you exp in this one zone because you get 5% more exp then all the other camps doesn't do the server any good. If you want more congestion, this is how you get it lol. Well unless you guys really wanna go back to retail days of having 3 PT in a spot designed for one and having every member of the PT standing at a spawn point waiting. Funny because that got even worse in the ToAU days when TP burn PTs were the norm. You would get a invite to a area with 9 other PTs there already because hey "this is the best spot in the game!". And then naturally this brings the meta PT who will show up, sit on top of your PT and try to out pull you.

We all know the issues that this mindset brings and the rest of the mmo world disbanded the ideas of the exp PT because no one could play nice.


FFXI is about competition. If you can't handle competition at exp camps, you won't make it very far in this game. The reason MMOs went away from worldspawn content is because of people complaining "We don't get to do this content.", not because of wanting to exp in the best locations.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:08 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
The reason MMOs went away from worldspawn content is because of people complaining "We don't get to do this content.", not because of wanting to exp in the best locations.

"We don't get to do this content (best exp camp in the level range) because the top 1% always have it claimed" Pretty much the same thing.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:13 pm 
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rmackner wrote:
Kazen wrote:
The reason MMOs went away from worldspawn content is because of people complaining "We don't get to do this content.", not because of wanting to exp in the best locations.

"We don't get to do this content (best exp camp in the level range) because the top 1% always have it claimed" Pretty much the same thing.


Nah, it's more like "This one group is monopolizing every worldspawn NM". Exp is secondary to that content in the eyes of most people who play MMOs for extended periods of time.

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