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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:43 pm 
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Caliburn wrote:
I too have just asked whether dual-boxing will be stopped (or rules changed) in the future. I said that I understand that this will upset some people if it happens, but the prevalence of alt-PLs is harming job balance (main WHMs), player skill and good party strategy. The exp may be nice, but I get bored in parties where we just zerg the mob and no one has to worry about dying, because the PL will save you and take hate. The thing I love most about FFXI is working together as a party, employing skill and strategy to be as effective as possible. Mindlessly zerg-ing mobs with no real strategy is boring and is not why I play FFXI.

In classic retail, PLing was done by friends rather than someone trying to flick between two game windows and still play effectively on their in-party character. It was rarer and involved someone actually giving up their time and not getting anything from it. In that context, it was a nice, rare treat to have a PL and was less expected than it is on Nasomi.


Did you know you're allowed to make your own parties and enjoy the game how you like without hating on the way others enjoy it?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:19 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
Easy way to distinguish dbox from 2 players on 1 IP: If they are on the same forum account, it's dbox. If they aren't, it's 2 players.

Disposablehero: it is. Nas does regular audits to make sure of that. If you suspect someone is circumventing the system, you should report it to nas, though.


Pretty easy to make 2 forum accounts...


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:42 pm 
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Dancer wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
Easy way to distinguish dbox from 2 players on 1 IP: If they are on the same forum account, it's dbox. If they aren't, it's 2 players.

Disposablehero: it is. Nas does regular audits to make sure of that. If you suspect someone is circumventing the system, you should report it to nas, though.


Pretty easy to make 2 forum accounts...


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Also, didn't you get banned for speed hacking across multiple zones why are you here

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:10 pm 
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Caliburn wrote:
In classic retail, PLing was done by friends rather than someone trying to flick between two game windows and still play effectively on their in-party character. It was rarer and involved someone actually giving up their time and not getting anything from it. In that context, it was a nice, rare treat to have a PL and was less expected than it is on Nasomi.


It was also done by people flicking between two (or more) game windows. It was just more rare - likely because it was an extra $15/mo or required account sharing.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:15 pm 
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Aeroo wrote:
Dancer wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
Easy way to distinguish dbox from 2 players on 1 IP: If they are on the same forum account, it's dbox. If they aren't, it's 2 players.

Disposablehero: it is. Nas does regular audits to make sure of that. If you suspect someone is circumventing the system, you should report it to nas, though.


Pretty easy to make 2 forum accounts...


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Also, didn't you get banned for speed hacking across multiple zones why are you here


Lol, "speed hacking" let's go with that. Back on topic, I asked nas if he would be adding Kraken club to Up in Arms or Octave club. Pleased with the response.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:27 pm 
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Tex wrote:
Better question would be if he intends to rapture all ZNM gear or at the very least PW gear once he fixes ToAU / ZNM system(assuming he ever does). Not having to grind zeni/pops for access to higher tiered ZNMs is why there's so many in circulation and commonly seen at the moment on Samurai with nq amemet mantles and spike earrings. Once they're fixed, that number will shift the opposite way dramatically. Till the hagun ENM is added anyway lol



Agreed. PW should not be as accessible as it is now, let alone killed with a party of 6. This is a 75 cap server in 2005 era yet everyone (including myself) has a Hachi body for a couple mil. Pathetic. Do we really want every WAR, NIN, SAM, and MNK all wearing the same overpowered shit? If this keeps up, that ridiculously powerful body piece will keep dropping lower and lower in price until the entire server has one. Do we really want that?

Either make Hachi body and GA rare/ex, remove them from the game, or make it more difficult to kill PW, and one way is to make the 99 lvl mobs UNCHARMABLE.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:55 pm 
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nebby wrote:
Tex wrote:
Better question would be if he intends to rapture all ZNM gear or at the very least PW gear once he fixes ToAU / ZNM system(assuming he ever does). Not having to grind zeni/pops for access to higher tiered ZNMs is why there's so many in circulation and commonly seen at the moment on Samurai with nq amemet mantles and spike earrings. Once they're fixed, that number will shift the opposite way dramatically. Till the hagun ENM is added anyway lol



Agreed. PW should not be as accessible as it is now, let alone killed with a party of 6. This is a 75 cap server in 2005 era yet everyone (including myself) has a Hachi body for a couple mil. Pathetic. Do we really want every WAR, NIN, SAM, and MNK all wearing the same overpowered shit? If this keeps up, that ridiculously powerful body piece will keep dropping lower and lower in price until the entire server has one. Do we really want that?

Either make Hachi body and GA rare/ex, remove them from the game, or make it more difficult to kill PW, and one way is to make the 99 lvl mobs UNCHARMABLE.



Yeah, seriously. The market for Cursed Togis is completely hecked. Think of the Woodworkers.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:04 pm 
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exelyon wrote:
nebby wrote:
Tex wrote:
Better question would be if he intends to rapture all ZNM gear or at the very least PW gear once he fixes ToAU / ZNM system(assuming he ever does). Not having to grind zeni/pops for access to higher tiered ZNMs is why there's so many in circulation and commonly seen at the moment on Samurai with nq amemet mantles and spike earrings. Once they're fixed, that number will shift the opposite way dramatically. Till the hagun ENM is added anyway lol



Agreed. PW should not be as accessible as it is now, let alone killed with a party of 6. This is a 75 cap server in 2005 era yet everyone (including myself) has a Hachi body for a couple mil. Pathetic. Do we really want every WAR, NIN, SAM, and MNK all wearing the same overpowered shit? If this keeps up, that ridiculously powerful body piece will keep dropping lower and lower in price until the entire server has one. Do we really want that?

Either make Hachi body and GA rare/ex, remove them from the game, or make it more difficult to kill PW, and one way is to make the 99 lvl mobs UNCHARMABLE.




Yeah, seriously. The market for Cursed Togis is completely hecked. Think of the Woodworkers.



That too. Real era gear should be a thing. (Sky and AF2), Not a top tier ZNM item that very few people even had in retail!. PW items SHOULD NOT EXIST on Nasomi.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:46 pm 
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I already tried to talk to nas about this and he said they're not an "upgrade" but a "sidegrade" and that it's fine for people to have them.

Yeah, it's dumb.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:23 pm 
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"I got mine but all of the newer kids shouldn't be able to get one as easily."

In regards to Alt Panic, there would be so many fewer parties without alts. Do you really want to seek for days as a melee?


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