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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:11 pm 
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OWNM60 in Toraimorai Canal. You don't need an endgame LS, but some skilled OWNM group can do it fine.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:59 pm 
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Ben wrote:
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thought end game on nasomi was just farming kraken clubs and hoping someone is impressed


Where can you get one on Nasomi? From what I understand the BCNM doesn't work and LoO is OC right? Is it through some content where I need an endgame ls to even compete and get the chance of a drop?


As Nab mentioned, you don't need an "endgame LS". You just need basically a manaburn group to kill it. However, it might take you a time or two to get the knack of it. I'd recommend starting with another, to at least get a feel for it, and also the KC one specifically is pretty heavily camped.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:02 pm 
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Watch topshelf do it sometime they are really good at it they do it with like 3 people and force the ownm in a spot where it cant move or hit anyone then slowly burn it down


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:05 pm 
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Tororu wrote:
Watch topshelf do it sometime they are really good at it they do it with like 3 people and force the ownm in a spot where it cant move or hit anyone then slowly burn it down



i see what you did there

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:10 pm 
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Just so everyone is aware, it would be against the rules to get a mob, or players, stuck in a position where they are unreachable, or makes you unreachable. Nas had to crack down on players doing this in Promyvion for easy solo EXP.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:06 pm 
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Tororu is nothing but a troll looking to push buttons for a response. It's a very easy mob to kill with the right tactic. It also is heavily camped for this reason. There would be no reason in the world to try and do anything against the rules to kill this one as the area of the zone is narrow, raised platforms over water that make the wyvern have to take the only path the game is giving them toward you and with the sharp turns and the many times it stops to cast, it is very easy to get distance between you and the mob and nuke it down. Use tier 2 spells. They are fast and mp efficient.

Since someone decided to troll, I will troll everyone with the desire to do this fight a little. Truthfully, this ownm should be moved to a different location. This is the most desired item from any ownm in the game and the area it is put near is the easiest kiting path in the world. If the goal is for ownms to be a bit challenging, I will tell you that even after everything got hp buffed, my ownm partner and I both dual box this. He goes thf and blm and I go rdm and blm. And with the incredibly easy kite path given to us for this one, we do it in under 10 minutes. The ones in valley of sorrows, newton movalpolos, dragon's aery, are all doable with the same strat that we use but it takes a few minutes longer and there is a chance of badly timed breath attacks wiping us. There is 0 risk of that happening in toraimarai. And it isn't because of any exploitation its simply in too convenient of a spot.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:08 pm 
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I actually agree.

I mean.. I agree with most of that. I believe OWNM's should be removed entirely from most places, but if they aren't removed, I think they should be much more difficult than two people able to easily dualbox them.. and the one in the canal, specifically, is pretty dumb. We tried to fight it once with a bad setup, and really just wound up kiting it for about 30 minutes without any risk of ever dying, while we talked about what we wanted to change.

It's silly that that one is the one that drops KC's.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:17 pm 
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I'd say the most difficult one, and also the most pain in the ass one to access is Newton Movalpolos. I would never expect him to actually change stuff like this especially when my original point in this post, aside from making a joke on the other forum post, was that I'd like some new content to do. But if it were as simple as switching the loot pools between 2 locations, I think the most difficult and most annoying one to access should be the one that holds the KC.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:34 pm 
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Aeroo wrote:
I'd say the most difficult one, and also the most pain in the ass one to access is Newton Movalpolos. I would never expect him to actually change stuff like this especially when my original point in this post, aside from making a joke on the other forum post, was that I'd like some new content to do. But if it were as simple as switching the loot pools between 2 locations, I think the most difficult and most annoying one to access should be the one that holds the KC.


I think it'd be interesting to see it set up so that each time a KC actually drops (hopefully it's not dropping that often already) it gets moved to a random other OWNM's treasure pool. This would keep all of the OWNMs in rotation more. Ideally not hitting the treasure pool again until after the original OWNM respawned, to keep the time table the same.

Also... if anyone is doing OWNMs and needs another, I'm always interested don't know anyone that does them. :) I've posted in the recruitment thread before but didn't get much interest.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:22 pm 
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Aeroo wrote:
I'd say the most difficult one, and also the most pain in the ass one to access is Newton Movalpolos. I would never expect him to actually change stuff like this especially when my original point in this post, aside from making a joke on the other forum post, was that I'd like some new content to do. But if it were as simple as switching the loot pools between 2 locations, I think the most difficult and most annoying one to access should be the one that holds the KC.



I think the loot tables should randomize each day. A KC dropping in the dunes? Maybe. Having to clear every OWNM and being surprised on if it was worth it? Feels more right.

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