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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:50 pm 
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Wolf, that is -in addition- to the other account sharing rules:

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• Account sharing is not permitted in any way. Your character is yours, and yours alone.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:52 pm 
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You can admit that it causes some confusion, then? And you're saying that account sharing, on it's own, is a rule that is enforced and punished?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:54 pm 
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Yes. It's right there in the rules. I just quoted it.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:58 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
Yes. It's right there in the rules. I just quoted it.



Fair enough... Just in case it ever comes up as something to fix...

Saying "Account sharing is not permitted. Your account is yours and yours alone", and then following that up with "Violating this rule will link your account with another IP that doesn't belong to you" sounds like the consequence for the rule before it. And "If a character from that IP performs an action resulting in discipline, your characters will also be subject to the same punishment, up to and including loss of character/account." coming immediately after the rule, and what reads like the consequence to that rule... reads like that is when punishment will matter, and that rule will result in you feeling a consequence.

Pretending like the rules aren't vague doesn't really help anyone. Thanks for clarifying that, I imagine Nas will have an influx in people reporting account sharing.

edit: i realize you didn't write the rules, and that you've asked him to clarify the rules for some time, just pointing out that there is a very reasonable way to read the rules about account sharing that does not lead one to believe that account sharing, on it's own, will result in any punishment.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:27 pm 
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If you do not read the rules in full, I understand where you are coming from.

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Players that choose not to follow the rules will receive a minimum penalty of loss of character. Greater exploits will result in a loss of characters linked by IP and/or banning of IP. The reason for this is the time wasted on players who choose not to follow the rules has a direct impact on further development, bug fixes, and QoL enhancements. Players that choose to play fairly should not be subject to delays of these features because players players cannot or will not play fairly.


Sharing AND breaking additional rules falls under the "greater exploits" portion, it's just the only one mentioned above to have that same punishment. Nas is inconsistent in his wording, as you have mentioned.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:30 pm 
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disposablehero wrote:
This kinda ban wave would get enough people into mordion to make DA lag look like a walk in the park lol.


If you know something, you can always get the ball rolling to a lag free DA over at IRC with a quick PM to ol'Nas ;)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:54 pm 
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Baldr wrote:
disposablehero wrote:
This kinda ban wave would get enough people into mordion to make DA lag look like a walk in the park lol.


If you know something, you can always get the ball rolling to a lag free DA over at IRC with a quick PM to ol'Nas ;)


Maybe one day people will not just talk about it, but BE about it.

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McGruff the Crime Dog: Remember, you can report all usage of VPNs to circumvent the rules, and account sharing activity to Nasomi directly and privately on IRC!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:32 pm 
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It's important to note that using a VPN itself is OK. If you're using a VPN to try to circumvent the rules though...

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:23 pm 
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McGruff edited his statement for clarity

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