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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:34 pm 
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lockecole777 wrote:
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All this talk about relics and no talk about how bst that should be nerfed though. Where is this fix Nasomi?


I dont think BST need a nerf, just remove ZNMs from their zones, no reason for them to be up if they shouldnt be allowed to be killed. Any other pro that BST has on this server I think should be allowed.


I don't think you fully understand what BST is capable of here.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:20 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
lockecole777 wrote:
sakiyo wrote:
All this talk about relics and no talk about how bst that should be nerfed though. Where is this fix Nasomi?


I dont think BST need a nerf, just remove ZNMs from their zones, no reason for them to be up if they shouldnt be allowed to be killed. Any other pro that BST has on this server I think should be allowed.


I don't think you fully understand what BST is capable of here.


I am, I said Im fine with the rest it can do, but I don't think its fine if it can solo content that is broken and shouldnt even be in the game in the first place. Nothing against the BST, do it while you can, I just think the balance of gear acquisition would be better on the server if they were removed for now.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:57 pm 
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lockecole777 wrote:
Kazen wrote:
lockecole777 wrote:

I dont think BST need a nerf, just remove ZNMs from their zones, no reason for them to be up if they shouldnt be allowed to be killed. Any other pro that BST has on this server I think should be allowed.


I don't think you fully understand what BST is capable of here.


I am, I said Im fine with the rest it can do, but I don't think its fine if it can solo content that is broken and shouldnt even be in the game in the first place. Nothing against the BST, do it while you can, I just think the balance of gear acquisition would be better on the server if they were removed for now.


I think he thinks you probably don't truly know "the rest" that it can do. ;)

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:18 pm 
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Aeroo wrote:
lockecole777 wrote:
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I don't think you fully understand what BST is capable of here.


I am, I said Im fine with the rest it can do, but I don't think its fine if it can solo content that is broken and shouldnt even be in the game in the first place. Nothing against the BST, do it while you can, I just think the balance of gear acquisition would be better on the server if they were removed for now.


I think he thinks you probably don't truly know "the rest" that it can do. ;)


Im new to the server, I dont doubt there's not a lot I know of their true potential. Its more how ZNMs kind of bypass several tiers of loot progression that I think kind of makes their acquisition "meh" (yes even when I got my own pieces)


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If a monster dies but takes long to register the death due to being stuck in an animation or whatever, while fighting a 2nd monster, the game automatically auto-targets the new monster and if you're attacking too fast -- fast enough to "claim" the 2nd monster before the 1st one fully dies, you don't get any exp because it died white.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:41 pm 
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lockecole777 wrote:
Aeroo wrote:
lockecole777 wrote:

I am, I said Im fine with the rest it can do, but I don't think its fine if it can solo content that is broken and shouldnt even be in the game in the first place. Nothing against the BST, do it while you can, I just think the balance of gear acquisition would be better on the server if they were removed for now.


I think he thinks you probably don't truly know "the rest" that it can do. ;)


Im new to the server, I dont doubt there's not a lot I know of their true potential. Its more how ZNMs kind of bypass several tiers of loot progression that I think kind of makes their acquisition "meh" (yes even when I got my own pieces)


I feel like you don't understand gear progression in ffxi. There's very little vertical progression at 75 cap, so the idea of bypassing tiers doesn't make much sense.

In on topic news: I just tested, and no Healing Ruby still doesn't target party members.

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Aramiltaru wrote:
lockecole777 wrote:
Aeroo wrote:

I think he thinks you probably don't truly know "the rest" that it can do. ;)


Im new to the server, I dont doubt there's not a lot I know of their true potential. Its more how ZNMs kind of bypass several tiers of loot progression that I think kind of makes their acquisition "meh" (yes even when I got my own pieces)


I feel like you don't understand gear progression in ffxi. There's very little vertical progression at 75 cap, so the idea of bypassing tiers doesn't make much sense.

In on topic news: I just tested, and no Healing Ruby still doesn't target party members.


I do understand gear progression in FFXI, and yes it might be hard to understand for those who have been on this server for years, but it is a real thing for those of us who have only been playing a couple months. If you dont think a BST who only has RK Chest but has 3/5 enkidu + aurum plus other drops is making a mockery of the whole ZNM process, then I think you're a little detached from the gearing process of some of us newer folks.


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lockecole777 wrote:
Aramiltaru wrote:
lockecole777 wrote:

Im new to the server, I dont doubt there's not a lot I know of their true potential. Its more how ZNMs kind of bypass several tiers of loot progression that I think kind of makes their acquisition "meh" (yes even when I got my own pieces)


I feel like you don't understand gear progression in ffxi. There's very little vertical progression at 75 cap, so the idea of bypassing tiers doesn't make much sense.

In on topic news: I just tested, and no Healing Ruby still doesn't target party members.


I do understand gear progression in FFXI, and yes it might be hard to understand for those who have been on this server for years, but it is a real thing for those of us who have only been playing a couple months. If you dont think a BST who only has RK Chest but has 3/5 enkidu + aurum plus other drops is making a mockery of the whole ZNM process, then I think you're a little detached from the gearing process of some of us newer folks.


Removing ZNMs isn't the way to fix that. A decent geared and well prepared party of 6 can reliably do all the ZNMs here besides PW. Also fwiw, that BST with only RK Chest and enkidu/aurum has got to have a near BiS CHR set if they actually soloed that gear.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:54 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
lockecole777 wrote:
Aramiltaru wrote:

I feel like you don't understand gear progression in ffxi. There's very little vertical progression at 75 cap, so the idea of bypassing tiers doesn't make much sense.

In on topic news: I just tested, and no Healing Ruby still doesn't target party members.


I do understand gear progression in FFXI, and yes it might be hard to understand for those who have been on this server for years, but it is a real thing for those of us who have only been playing a couple months. If you dont think a BST who only has RK Chest but has 3/5 enkidu + aurum plus other drops is making a mockery of the whole ZNM process, then I think you're a little detached from the gearing process of some of us newer folks.


Removing ZNMs isn't the way to fix that. A decent geared and well prepared party of 6 can reliably do all the ZNMs here besides PW. Also fwiw, that BST with only RK Chest and enkidu/aurum has got to have a near BiS CHR set if they actually soloed that gear.


The existence of broken tiered ZNMs that dont need pop items and can be fought endlessly (some of which dont work at all like their old selves) is what I had issue with, not the ability of BSTs to kill them persay. FWIW that BST wasnt the one who killed the ZNM, I just used him as an example.


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lockecole777 wrote:
The existence of broken tiered ZNMs that dont need pop items and can be fought endlessly (some of which dont work at all like their old selves) is what I had issue with, not the ability of BSTs to kill them persay. FWIW that BST wasnt the one who killed the ZNM, I just used him as an example.


You're right it shouldn't be this way, but it is. This is one man's pet project/hobby, so unless someone correctly codes ZNMs/Zeni/Soultrappers and sends it to him, I don't see him undertaking that whole endeavor by himself. Not to mention I'd rather he fix things that have been broken for 12months+(SAM AF3, Black Belt, etc.) rather than take content away by removing ZNMs.

Nasomi isn't retail CoP/ToAU, it will never be either of those things. The best way to describe this server is "in the spirit of CoP FFXI with some ToAU content".

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