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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:05 pm 
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Aeroo wrote:
you have an extra level hatred in your tone and to insult everyone who does enjoy the game and server despite the issues just seems unnecessary..


I recognize the tone as I -- as well as many others i'm sure -- have played a game for a long enough time that the second another game that really stimulates you comes along when you're feeling really jaded about the game you're currently playing, you really start to question why you played the other game for so long, and how others are still playing it. Its how i feel about FFXIV while i'm playing FFXI. I have the undying hatred of a thousand burning suns for anyone who tells me its a good game lol.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:14 pm 
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It's just simply untrue to say there isn't skill in this game. And to hear it said from people who never even tanked anything is really annoying. I didn't do 2 of the things in that little list I made either. I still have goals too. And when I complete them I will find more to do.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:16 pm 
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I assume “solo” means with a dual box, right?

It’s a good list, I just don’t think people are soloing Sim?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:18 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
I assume “solo” means with a dual box, right?

It’s a good list, I just don’t think people are soloing Sim?


Yes dual boxed, by one person, solo.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:20 pm 
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Aeroo wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
I assume “solo” means with a dual box, right?

It’s a good list, I just don’t think people are soloing Sim?


Yes dual boxed, by one person, solo.


Yeah, agreed, that’s a strong list of things. Like I said, just making sure I didn’t miss someone actually solo’ing Sim lol

I agree with your premise. Every game is really easy if you only do the easy things.

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...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:21 pm 
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Steena, I really don't understand you what so ever. You played on this server for a few months, played corsair only and killed a couple nidhoggs and decided you beat the game. All of that is perfectly fine. But to come shit on this game constantly calling it easy when you never tanked anything or even played a support job that required you doing more than 2 rolls that last 6 minutes is kind of ridiculous. I understand your criticisms of nasomis management of the server and what things he chooses to work on. Everyone has their issues with that and were all often baffled by the choices made. But you have an extra level hatred in your tone and to insult everyone who does enjoy the game and server despite the issues just seems unnecessary. I guess it's fun to just come shit on people because you feel better than the whole thing? I'd respect the opinion more if I saw you play a job that had the least built of responsibility involved but all you did was come get carried through a few hnm kills and quit. You didn't do sea, you didn't low man hold any wyrms. You didn't solo any mini ground kings. You didn't attempt anything challenging at all.


Just because you saw me at faffy on cor doesnt mean thats all I did, but ok.


I also used to see you hang in town on your shitty warrior.
Well have you tanked anything significant?
Have you solod simurgh, roc, ka?
Have you solo'd sky triggers?
Have you taken a craft even past 60?
Have you solod Suzy?
Have you held tiamat or jorm in a low man situation?
Have you even killed tiamat or jorm? Vrtra?
Do you even know how to work a resistance set?
You tank khim while your brds struggle to land elegy?
Did you do the Maat fight as a 66 brd or rng?
Did you ever come up with an idea or a new strategy for anything?
Did you tank AV and hold it down steadily while damaging it for 2 hours?
Can you name even one impressive thing you've done on this game?



If I say no to most of those things will it make you feel better? I took it easy on my nostalgia run on Nasomi, so what? I don't have the time to do many of the things on your list in 1 gaming session. Most of the things you list require having disposable time. If it makes you feel like you life has some kind of value, knock yourself out. I'm impressed you have the patience for it. I can agree that some lv 66 maat fights require skill. Sure. At least we have finally found something, which was what I was asking for in the first place.

I did plenty on retail in what I consider to be the true golden age of the game, ToAU. It didn't require insane amounts of time in one session and it was fun and challenging. You could gather a few friends and go have fun.

P.S. Just for fun....

I also used to see you hang in town on your shitty warrior. -Sorry that I was AFK with my bazaar up.
Well have you tanked anything significant? - In retail, sure. Didn't tank on nas
Have you solod simurgh, roc, ka? - Takes more time than I have/care for in a session
Have you solo'd sky triggers? See above
Have you taken a craft even past 60? See above
Have you solod Suzy? See above
Have you held tiamat or jorm in a low man situation? See above.
Have you even killed tiamat or jorm? Vrtra? Sure. Not lowman like you though.
Do you even know how to work a resistance set? lol.
You tank khim while your brds struggle to land elegy? lol.
Did you do the Maat fight as a 66 brd or rng? No, but that actually does sound hard. Grats! We found something.
Did you ever come up with an idea or a new strategy for anything? Sure, the BCNM40 fight when it had mag resist
Did you tank AV and hold it down steadily while damaging it for 2 hours? Would barely have the time, see above.
Can you name even one impressive thing you've done on this game? Endure your existence.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:22 pm 
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Steena wrote:
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Hey buddy, you just used the word "skill" three times to describe a game in your defense that said game requires no skill. For someone who enjoys arguing on the internet so much, you'd think you'd be better at it, pal.


And you derail conversations when you can't think of a reasonable point to make. We all have our flaws I guess. OP is long gone by now anyways. I honestly just came to give my 2 cents since everyone was shitting on him but whatever.


How is this a derail? Its literally the CORE of the thing we've only ever been debating, whether this game takes skill. I just used your condescending "friend" tone and sarcastically applied it to mine, chief.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:23 pm 
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yes, as we can all tell from this forum thread... your time is very valuable and precious.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:29 pm 
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Aeroo wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
I assume “solo” means with a dual box, right?

It’s a good list, I just don’t think people are soloing Sim?


Yes dual boxed, by one person, solo.


Also, I specifically chose not to dual box so ell. oh. ell. I wanted to relive nostalgia and that didn't include having money for 2 accounts.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:29 pm 
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ELL. Oh. Ell. Indeed


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