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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:20 am 
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tokitaki wrote:
You could charm 99s in retail and familiar them for a longer timer. That's not out of era.


I'm aware, but when could you charm 99s to fight other loot-having 99s when the level cap was 75?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:22 am 
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Goodjuice wrote:
or the blu community since bst is the only job that can succesfully help blu learn spells.


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Dont laugh ok, Q&A is soon


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:31 am 
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Another thing to add, Beastmaster charmed pets seem to have no damage "type" (such as Blunt, Piercing, Slashing) therefore doing full damage to enemies with a special damage reduction like Elementals and Slimes.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:33 am 
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Viktoriya wrote:
Shikishima wrote:

Lets not get into charming level 99 ToAU mobs and using Dawn Mulsums/Reward spamming to solo ZNMs/other ToAU NMs with Familiared pets.




You could always charm mobs way higher level than you, even in retail. There were plenty of times I charmed things way higher level and used familiar to have them for 30mins. This is an issue Nasomi made a lot worse by making ToAU mobs level 99 as a custom thing to his server. The lowering of monster levels will greatly cease this issue immediately.

I do agree, bsts stacking familiar's is abused as hell on this server. I've seen random bsts talking about it like it was nothing.
Jug Pets never followed you when you zoned in retail.
Beast Affinity is busted beyond belief.
Reward recast is correct, you get - merits to decrease the timer plus a either Bison or Khim Bonnet to lower the timer even more.
Certain mob families that were not charmable on retail are charmable here. Manticores, Wyverns, Malboro, Cockatrice, Goobbues, great birds(peryton) types.
Certain mobs are charmable in dynamis that shouldn't be. Vanguard Wyverns in Xarcabard, lesser dragons in Dynamis Bubu(they don't con as NM's for whatever reason) thus charmable.

It is the last "Nasomified" job that exists at the moment. It is hella abused right now.


Yes, true, you could charm things above your level, but I'm certain there were 0 (sorry I ruined my earlier post with this bombshell, I was hoping that guy would bite and name a random mob) level 99 mobs that were not NMs in this era of the game. So being able to charm 99s here is absurd.

Familiar stacking is a huge problem here and has been since I started 4-5 months ago, and every time you mention it anywhere you are met with; "shhhhh don't tell people" or "don't talk about that in a public forum". I can't believe it's been like it for this long, I'm scared to ask how long it's been like this... one would assume 5 years.

The fact that it isn't disabled boggles my mind.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:44 am 
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you're right i agree nasomi should nerf everything but only after i've gotten a chance to abuse it like countless others have

thank you for understanding

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:47 am 
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Bodey wrote:
you're right i agree nasomi should nerf everything but only after i've gotten a chance to abuse it like countless others have

thank you for understanding


This really, if bst gets nerfed then surely toau needs balancing to offset it.

"We're capped on znm gear guys from abusing bst so you can just go ahead and just nerf it now we don't need it anymore, thanks!"


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Bodey wrote:
you're right i agree nasomi should nerf everything but only after i've gotten a chance to abuse it like countless others have

thank you for understanding

Heard and understood.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:52 am 
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Viktoriya wrote:
Shikishima wrote:

Lets not get into charming level 99 ToAU mobs and using Dawn Mulsums/Reward spamming to solo ZNMs/other ToAU NMs with Familiared pets.




You could always charm mobs way higher level than you, even in retail. There were plenty of times I charmed things way higher level and used familiar to have them for 30mins. This is an issue Nasomi made a lot worse by making ToAU mobs level 99 as a custom thing to his server. The lowering of monster levels will greatly cease this issue immediately.

I do agree, bsts stacking familiar's is abused as hell on this server. I've seen random bsts talking about it like it was nothing.
Jug Pets never followed you when you zoned in retail.
Beast Affinity is busted beyond belief.
Reward recast is correct, you get - merits to decrease the timer plus a either Bison or Khim Bonnet to lower the timer even more.
Certain mob families that were not charmable on retail are charmable here. Manticores, Wyverns, Malboro, Cockatrice, Goobbues, great birds(peryton) types.
Certain mobs are charmable in dynamis that shouldn't be. Vanguard Wyverns in Xarcabard, lesser dragons in Dynamis Bubu(they don't con as NM's for whatever reason) thus charmable.
Also should throw out, monk mobs aren't attacking twice when we charm them, or use mandy/cactuar jug pets. This is an extremely old bug.


It is the last "Nasomified" job that exists at the moment. It is hella abused right now.


QFT; Could probably add that PLD Rampart and Fealty both need to be heavily adjusted for retail accuracy as well, but BST is beyond overpowered at the moment. Definitely the job most in need of an overhaul at this point.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:53 am 
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Baldr wrote:
Viktoriya wrote:
Shikishima wrote:

Lets not get into charming level 99 ToAU mobs and using Dawn Mulsums/Reward spamming to solo ZNMs/other ToAU NMs with Familiared pets.




You could always charm mobs way higher level than you, even in retail. There were plenty of times I charmed things way higher level and used familiar to have them for 30mins. This is an issue Nasomi made a lot worse by making ToAU mobs level 99 as a custom thing to his server. The lowering of monster levels will greatly cease this issue immediately.

I do agree, bsts stacking familiar's is abused as hell on this server. I've seen random bsts talking about it like it was nothing.
Jug Pets never followed you when you zoned in retail.
Beast Affinity is busted beyond belief.
Reward recast is correct, you get - merits to decrease the timer plus a either Bison or Khim Bonnet to lower the timer even more.
Certain mob families that were not charmable on retail are charmable here. Manticores, Wyverns, Malboro, Cockatrice, Goobbues, great birds(peryton) types.
Certain mobs are charmable in dynamis that shouldn't be. Vanguard Wyverns in Xarcabard, lesser dragons in Dynamis Bubu(they don't con as NM's for whatever reason) thus charmable.
Also should throw out, monk mobs aren't attacking twice when we charm them, or use mandy/cactuar jug pets. This is an extremely old bug.


It is the last "Nasomified" job that exists at the moment. It is hella abused right now.


QFT; Could probably add that PLD Rampart and Fealty both need to be heavily adjusted for retail accuracy as well, but BST is beyond overpowered at the moment.

One battle at a time my man

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:06 am 
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Goodjuice wrote:
Bodey wrote:
you're right i agree nasomi should nerf everything but only after i've gotten a chance to abuse it like countless others have

thank you for understanding


This really, if bst gets nerfed then surely toau needs balancing to offset it.

"We're capped on znm gear guys from abusing bst so you can just go ahead and just nerf it now we don't need it anymore, thanks!"


Bby, you can take a 12man setup and go kill all the ZNMs. I'm not saying BST isn't broken but come on. Have you actually tried to kill one with a RDM PLD or NIN tanking?

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