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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:06 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
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hahhahahaaha all of the bsts are so salty


Don't be mad at us because you guys don't want to get a regular pt to kill ZNMs. seems like allot of the complaints on here are about TOAU area when we weren't the ones who decided to make everything lvl 99.



i don't believe anyone is asking you guys to fix BST either.


I don't recall posting I was going to fix bst.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:07 pm 
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You said you weren't the ones who decided to make everything level 99.... Like someone said you were.

I just wanted to make clear that we also weren't asking you to fix BST, just the big man running the server.

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...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:09 pm 
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So I don't have Bst leveled past 40ish but I got a question for everyone who wants to "fix" Bst, If all the changes you guys want happen would you take Bsts to do anything?

Say Nas "fixed" BA, "fixed" Familiar stacking, "fixed" reward amounts, "fixed" charming mobs higher level than the Bst, Would any of you take Bst to anything?

And with Bst currently being "broken" do any of you take Bst to anything besides ZNM's? My endgame experience is limited so I really want to know.

Because as I understand if you "fixed" all those things y'all want fixed, without changing the TOAU areas, Bst wouldn't be brought to do any endgame content anymore.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:10 pm 
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No.. They'd go back to being a job that mostly solo's and kills things with other BSTs together... As they were meant to be.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:26 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
No.. They'd go back to being a job that mostly solo's and kills things with other BSTs together... As they were meant to be.


And Ninja was supposed to be a Ranged DD and Sam was supposed to be a tank. Ranger is supposed to have a penalty when attacking close. Cor isn't supposed to make paralyze Perma. Bard isn't supposed to be able to mazuraka to kite Kirin.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:26 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
No.. They'd go back to being a job that mostly solo's and kills things with other BSTs together... As they were meant to be.


So forgive me I'm not understanding this right but it sounds like you are ok with Bsts killing things just not with other jobs also in the group? So a Group of Bsts can kill Znms and it's ok. But if a Bst kills a Znm for any other job it's wrong?

Or is it you just want Bsts to xp solo/duo/trio and not be able to do anything else at all?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:27 pm 
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There's a lot wrong in that post, but I think I just go back to laughing about how salty BSTs are when everyone points out how broken their job is.

Maybe Nas will do something, I'm going to guess significantly less than he should. Oh well.

and yes, if you see someone abusing Mazurka I believe we decided that you should report that last time it came up... and if you see someone Mazurka kiting Kirin you should absolutely report them, because that is blatant exploiting.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:28 pm 
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Dakirby wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
No.. They'd go back to being a job that mostly solo's and kills things with other BSTs together... As they were meant to be.


And Ninja was supposed to be a Ranged DD and Sam was supposed to be a tank. Ranger is supposed to have a penalty when attacking close. Cor isn't supposed to make paralyze Perma. Bard isn't supposed to be able to mazuraka to kite Kirin.


RuAvitau is a dungeon where mazurka doesn't work.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:28 pm 
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Phat13uddha wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
No.. They'd go back to being a job that mostly solo's and kills things with other BSTs together... As they were meant to be.


So forgive me I'm not understanding this right but it sounds like you are ok with Bsts killing things just not with other jobs also in the group? So a Group of Bsts can kill Znms and it's ok. But if a Bst kills a Znm for any other job it's wrong?

Or is it you just want Bsts to xp solo/duo/trio and not be able to do anything else at all?


I think putting gear on mobs that you make level 99 because you don't want the area to be functional yet, but for those to be very easily killed because you allow a broken job to continue to exist is a fundamental problem with the server, economy, and gear balance.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:29 pm 
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Kazuki wrote:
No one is stopping any of you from leveling BST or SMN if you wanna get ISP or ZNM stuff. Instead of shedding your you-should-see-a-doctor-about-your dangerously-high-levels-of-sodium tears, find some way to better yourselves. Show us lolBSTs what you're made of and go do the ZNMs with a big group.

Or I guess you can continue to take out the frustration of your inadequacies on pet jobs. Y'know, whatever makes ya feel good.

Here is the problem when you bring up a general grievance, no one wants to admit their job is stupid. Let's not fix what's broken, lets just have everyone level it and we can all be stupidly OP together... great opinion.

Yes, let's keep the job the same, I will unlock it and sit there for 1 week 2 houring every time I can on clockwork and go around one-shotting everything. It seems like some one has to go to an extreme before action is taken here, at what point does familiar stacking become someone exploiting a game mechanic and bannable?

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So I don't have Bst leveled past 40ish but I got a question for everyone who wants to "fix" Bst, If all the changes you guys want happen would you take Bsts to do anything?

Say Nas "fixed" BA, "fixed" Familiar stacking, "fixed" reward amounts, "fixed" charming mobs higher level than the Bst, Would any of you take Bst to anything?

And with Bst currently being "broken" do any of you take Bst to anything besides ZNM's? My endgame experience is limited so I really want to know.

Because as I understand if you "fixed" all those things y'all want fixed, without changing the TOAU areas, Bst wouldn't be brought to do any endgame content anymore.


BST is a SOLO/DUO/Low man job.

Why're you putting BROKEN in ""s? Everyone here is on Nasomi for a 'golden age' experience and BST ruins that for a lot of people.

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Since we wan't everything in era, lets get rid of all the food that isn't in era, get rid of sack and satchel. All job abilities that weren't in era, put spells at the lvl they were learned at in era. Give smn back their 2hr. put mob pets back at their regular exp. since that was what it was in era. And I don't mind bst getting nerfed, everyone seems to forget that even in retail bst were still powerful.

On a side note for those who aren't beast. Everyone forgets until they need help that bst have to buy their biscuits, buy their jugs, buy food for player. charm gear, melee gear, reward gear. When you are a melee job such as Sam you buy your gear once, on this server you don't have to repair your gear. And as for those of you who were here before the TH nerf who got your relic before the TH nerf, idk how you can complain when currency was dropping like candy, but now that you have your relic you expect to be the most powerful job on the server


LOL there is a difference between a QoL change and a broken job, I don't mind the food going though... I'd like cream puffs back too.

Is that last paragraph even serious? I'm not even going to bother with it.

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