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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:14 pm 
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Dakirby wrote:
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I'm certainly not going to do your work for you, that's why I deleted my post.

I believe everything that is broken should be fixed, so you're talking to the wrong guy when you do stupid thought experiments of like, "If you're going to fix this, then you have to fix this!!!!!" ---- I agree. Get on it. You didn't "catch" me. Fix it all.

BST is fundamentally broken, and significantly more powerful than they were at the time that the game is aiming to replicate. Sorry if that fact upsets you, but that's the case and is why people would like it fixed.


No you're right that bst is broken. I would agree with a fix. The lvl 85 crab is not of era. Its supposed to raise pets such as the fungar from a cap of 65 to 75. And as far as the stacking 2hrs that shouldn't be a thing either. But after the bst fix I would love to see other fixes as well.


I promise that I'd love to see other fixes as well. Not everyone agrees with me, but I'd be fine with basically "fixing" everything to be like era. I like some of the QoL stuff, but I understand that if it had to go away in the name of everything else being fixed making sense, I'd be good with it.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:16 pm 
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Dakirby wrote:
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As a new player, this thread explained a lot. I thought Nasomi's large number of BSTs was just about people interested in soloing in the good old times at their own pace, it's actually a golden ticket to powerful gear from otherwise hardly accessible content for most, among other problems. It's... a bit disgusting. But after seeing SMN being ravaged as it was, I'm expecting BST to get a review too... sometimes.

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Is this satire? I genuinely feel like i'm being trolled.


I felt trolled too. I'm new but I fished like a madman to afford Ranger and Corsair ammunition, good food, cards, decent gear and other shit. I don't feel BST's operating costs are anything special at all.


I would love for bst to have a JA as Recycle. And Cor doesn't have to have bullets to gain exp.



It was a bad argument, lol, it's cool to just drop it.

BST is, realistically, one of the cheapest jobs to xp to 75 and isn't that expensive once you're there compared to other job's and their demand for end-game gear sets as well. We don't need to keep throwing good time after bad, discussing it.

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...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:19 pm 
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Dakirby wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
I'm certainly not going to do your work for you, that's why I deleted my post.

I believe everything that is broken should be fixed, so you're talking to the wrong guy when you do stupid thought experiments of like, "If you're going to fix this, then you have to fix this!!!!!" ---- I agree. Get on it. You didn't "catch" me. Fix it all.

BST is fundamentally broken, and significantly more powerful than they were at the time that the game is aiming to replicate. Sorry if that fact upsets you, but that's the case and is why people would like it fixed.


No you're right that bst is broken. I would agree with a fix. The lvl 85 crab is not of era. Its supposed to raise pets such as the fungar from a cap of 65 to 75. And as far as the stacking 2hrs that shouldn't be a thing either. But after the bst fix I would love to see other fixes as well.


I promise that I'd love to see other fixes as well. Not everyone agrees with me, but I'd be fine with basically "fixing" everything to be like era. I like some of the QoL stuff, but I understand that if it had to go away in the name of everything else being fixed making sense, I'd be good with it.


The thing is that this isn't era, it was never designed to be like that. When they first launched it they had not planned it to be like era.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:22 pm 
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I always felt that we should have 0 access to the ToAU areas or full access. This halfway kind of access that we have at the moment where you can get there but you aren't allowed/supposed to do stuff that isn't unlock jobs/AF is really the biggest problem.

And honestly anyone who complains about it not being in era should look around cause this whole server isn't really in era, lots of little things Nas changed cause he wanted them that way. I mean it was only what like 7 months back that worms could move like normal mobs.

But then again I also feel like when Bst is changed it would be nice to get some positive ones. Like get all the pets working correctly for starters so CC isn't the only pet Bsts can use that doesn't cost 120k a stack.

But if were gonna add stuff that's QoL adjustments how about giving Bst Ready? I mean we already have lots of other jobs with out of era abilities whats 1 more with all the other changes?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:26 pm 
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Dakirby wrote:
Piellar wrote:
As a new player, this thread explained a lot. I thought Nasomi's large number of BSTs was just about people interested in soloing in the good old times at their own pace, it's actually a golden ticket to powerful gear from otherwise hardly accessible content for most, among other problems. It's... a bit disgusting. But after seeing SMN being ravaged as it was, I'm expecting BST to get a review too... sometimes.

Goodjuice wrote:
Is this satire? I genuinely feel like i'm being trolled.


I felt trolled too. I'm new but I fished like a madman to afford Ranger and Corsair ammunition, good food, cards, decent gear and other shit. I don't feel BST's operating costs are anything special at all.


I would love for bst to have a JA as recycle, And as for Cor thats always been expensive to lvl but you can get a pt without having to buy bullets and cards. Its a COR who doesn't want a naked Cor.

I wouldn't mind call beast on my ranger, let's trade JAs!! It's ok I had irrational thoughts when ppl talking about nerfing blu, this too shall pass


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:37 pm 
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Dakirby wrote:
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Dakirby wrote:

No you're right that bst is broken. I would agree with a fix. The lvl 85 crab is not of era. Its supposed to raise pets such as the fungar from a cap of 65 to 75. And as far as the stacking 2hrs that shouldn't be a thing either. But after the bst fix I would love to see other fixes as well.

Wolf you're a hero.

Hold up Kirbz, you have opposed everything until the last two posts, did you finally actually read what we were saying? You're a hard one to figure out.


Why are you even here if you're not going to have an educated response.

There is a vast difference between education and intelligence.

Kirby you have gone from making boring troll-esque posts like 'lol you guys are mad because you don't have BST, go level it if you are mad that it's OP" and "BST is so expensive we have to buy 12k crabs and biscuits and gear to level, let us be OP" and "BST being OP isn't the only out of era thing on Nasomi get rid of food and QoL things if you wanna get rid of BST" to "yeah actually you guys are right BST is OP". You're boring now and honestly haven't offered a thing to the thread, why did you even comment?

You saying I have nothing good to say just proves either you haven't read my posts or you are just a dense troll, if none of your posts have been troll I'm sorry for suggesting that but please refer to the first thing I wrote in this post.

Dakirby wrote:
Piellar wrote:
As a new player, this thread explained a lot. I thought Nasomi's large number of BSTs was just about people interested in soloing in the good old times at their own pace, it's actually a golden ticket to powerful gear from otherwise hardly accessible content for most, among other problems. It's... a bit disgusting. But after seeing SMN being ravaged as it was, I'm expecting BST to get a review too... sometimes.

Goodjuice wrote:
Is this satire? I genuinely feel like i'm being trolled.


I felt trolled too. I'm new but I fished like a madman to afford Ranger and Corsair ammunition, good food, cards, decent gear and other shit. I don't feel BST's operating costs are anything special at all.


I would love for bst to have a JA as recycle, And as for Cor thats always been expensive to lvl but you can get a pt without having to buy bullets and cards. Its a COR who doesn't want a naked Cor.

If you mean this literally you are beyond help, no roll a Corsair could do would make up for the loss of a party member.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:40 pm 
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Ase wrote:
Dakirby wrote:
Piellar wrote:
As a new player, this thread explained a lot. I thought Nasomi's large number of BSTs was just about people interested in soloing in the good old times at their own pace, it's actually a golden ticket to powerful gear from otherwise hardly accessible content for most, among other problems. It's... a bit disgusting. But after seeing SMN being ravaged as it was, I'm expecting BST to get a review too... sometimes.



I felt trolled too. I'm new but I fished like a madman to afford Ranger and Corsair ammunition, good food, cards, decent gear and other shit. I don't feel BST's operating costs are anything special at all.


I would love for bst to have a JA as recycle, And as for Cor thats always been expensive to lvl but you can get a pt without having to buy bullets and cards. Its a COR who doesn't want a naked Cor.

I wouldn't mind call beast on my ranger, let's trade JAs!! It's ok I had irrational thoughts when ppl talking about nerfing blu, this too shall pass


I'll admit it was stupid of me to post that. I'll man up to it.


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i’ve been playing for a long time and didn’t know about that bug involving familiar. Isn’t this the kind of thing that people should be banned for abusing?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:50 pm 
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Concepcion wrote:
i’ve been playing for a long time and didn’t know about that bug involving familiar. Isn’t this the kind of thing that people should be banned for abusing?


It may potentially just be shortsightedness within the code, but it could very well be a big which would be exploiting a big and most definately punishable. If it's just short sight in the code, its technically exploiting but totally fair game.


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