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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:16 am 
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karem wrote:
AraY wrote:
karem wrote:
lets asked the bst
r we strong atm? yes
is there a stronger class? yes
r we op atm ? no
it is fun atm? hell yea
then y change?
not old school? plz remove everything out of era

I'm shocked, a BST main doesn't think his job is stupid OP.

Your posts on this subject matter have been the most pointless things I have ever I read, I thought Kirby was truly special... but then you graced the thread.


pointless thingsssss waat waat
this is the honest feedback from a BSTmain who doing his op job "stare at AH window"
just hope nas can take into consideration when umm Nerf i mean fix bugs or create more bugs


Your reasoning for Nasomi not FIXING BST is because you're a BST and you have fun on it... oh you're right my bad, the job can't be OP because all YOU do is sit and look at YOUR AH window. You also don't want Nasomi to fix your job because of the off chance it creates more bugs? Don't worry if it's too hard to fix disabling an ability is EASY. I honestly hope you're just the worst troll I have ever seen.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:24 am 
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AraY do you even have bst 75 ?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:29 am 
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If cure V one shotted Dynamis Lord the last question you ask people if you, the WHM, are told "that's weird" is "DO YOU EVEN HAVE 75 WHM?"

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:35 am 
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karem wrote:
AraY do you even have bst 75 ?

Why? Because my opinion (which is pretty much fact on this matter) becomes invalid if I don't? Behave.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:38 am 
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Damn, and I just started playing BST again too ; ;

Instances of actual job mechanics not functioning properly should definitely be adjusted, and Beast Affinity as well as Familiar are good examples of this.

Beast Affinity should increase the cap of jugs, making some of them once again viable at 75 (Funguar, Siravarde, Como, Orob), but you should never be able to call a higher level pet than yourself. A level 85 jug is pretty ridiculous. Not sure how difficult a fix to this would be to code/implement, but it seems like the most egregiously improperly coded job mechanic.

The cumulative effect of successive Familiar uses is also an issue, though I'm not too sure how this worked in retail in regards to natural pets. Jug pets obviously would despawn after a certain duration, making it impossible to stack multiple Familiars, but I'm not sure about successive Charm > Familiar > Leave cycles on natural pets. I'm pretty sure this didn't work in retail though, and it shouldn't here either, as creating a super monster (even though it sounds kinda fun) would be pretty broken in most circumstances.

The cool down timer for Reward isn't so much a broken or improperly coded job mechanic as it is an issue of what should be considered "in era." It looks like the recast was changed from a 3 minute cool down to a 1:30 minute cool down in the March 11, 2008 update. Doesn't seem like a big deal to me, and since this server is kind of a mish-mash of things from different eras already, debating it solely on that point isn't too convincing.

As far as I remember, enmity generated from Reward was always treated as if the pet had cured itself for however much HP, with some small amount of CE also going to the BST if they used the JA within range. It was always a good trick to use in the event you took hate off your pet before the addition of Snarl.

As for the ToAU complaints, I don't think they are entirely the result of improperly coded job mechanics either. The problem isn't that you can charm level 99 mobs. The problem is that there are level 99 mobs. If there had been level 99 mobs wandering around in retail, BSTs would have been charming and 2hr'ing them too. A high level mob doesn't equate to being impossible to charm, only to having a lower success rate.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:04 am 
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AraY wrote:
karem wrote:
lets asked the bst
r we strong atm? yes
is there a stronger class? yes
r we op atm ? no
it is fun atm? hell yea
then y change?
not old school? plz remove everything out of era

I'm shocked, a BST main doesn't think his job is stupid OP.

Your posts on this subject matter have been the most pointless things I have ever I read, I thought Kirby was truly special... but then you graced the thread.


Who died and made you king of the Neck beards.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:15 am 
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karem wrote:
lets asked the bst
r we strong atm? yes
is there a stronger class? yes
r we op atm ? no
it is fun atm? hell yea
then y change?
not old school? plz remove everything out of era


This was me when blu was out nuking black mage and self destructing unresisted, even weakened. Change it all.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:10 pm 
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lazychocobo wrote:
Wonder how many haters here are summoners who are salty? The 2hr bug should be fixed, but other than that Bst dosen't feel "broken" in any way really.
I can't believe people are sitting there for dozens of hours waiting on stacking a 2hr ability, I think the loss of life there is punishment enough.


I think the idea is that some of the BSTs that do this will log in and summon CC, use familiar, and then afk. Come back in 2 hours and familiar, then afk... They're going about their normal day except checking in to familiar and then when they're ready to play they've gotten in several familiars to make farming or meriting or whatever easier. I personally prefer mining for my money and never really merit on BST (no one wants us...) so I tend to forget we can even do this.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:54 pm 
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Guedj wrote:
lazychocobo wrote:
Wonder how many haters here are summoners who are salty? The 2hr bug should be fixed, but other than that Bst dosen't feel "broken" in any way really.
I can't believe people are sitting there for dozens of hours waiting on stacking a 2hr ability, I think the loss of life there is punishment enough.


I think the idea is that some of the BSTs that do this will log in and summon CC, use familiar, and then afk. Come back in 2 hours and familiar, then afk... They're going about their normal day except checking in to familiar and then when they're ready to play they've gotten in several familiars to make farming or meriting or whatever easier. I personally prefer mining for my money and never really merit on BST (no one wants us...) so I tend to forget we can even do this.


does not matter guedj, tis still OP the battle cry for nerf will cont...
bst op nerf
pld op nerf still cry for nerf eventhough i never experience as pld, well all i do is read some post and decide its too op need nerf
smn sam blue rdm brd cor whm blm mnk pup rng war,..... need nerff
until all u got left is bottle neck end game content drk zerk fest under a min /clap
lets bring the old retail back... remove all out of era and db player


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:54 pm 
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Guedj wrote:
lazychocobo wrote:
Wonder how many haters here are summoners who are salty? The 2hr bug should be fixed, but other than that Bst dosen't feel "broken" in any way really.
I can't believe people are sitting there for dozens of hours waiting on stacking a 2hr ability, I think the loss of life there is punishment enough.


I think the idea is that some of the BSTs that do this will log in and summon CC, use familiar, and then afk. Come back in 2 hours and familiar, then afk... They're going about their normal day except checking in to familiar and then when they're ready to play they've gotten in several familiars to make farming or meriting or whatever easier. I personally prefer mining for my money and never really merit on BST (no one wants us...) so I tend to forget we can even do this.


does not matter guedj, tis still OP the battle cry for nerf will cont...
bst op nerf
pld op nerf still cry for nerf eventhough i never experience as pld, well all i do is read some post and decide its too op need nerf
smn sam blue rdm brd cor whm blm mnk pup rng war,..... need nerff
until all u got left is bottle neck end game content drk zerk fest under a min /clap
lets bring the old retail back... remove all out of era and db player


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