Figured we could start a post-patch discussion to gather information on what has changed, exactly, and the effects of it all.

i solo'd on bst28-29 for 2 hours and absolutely nothing was different with charming mobs that i could see. I heard beast affinity will no longer boost a jug pet beyond the beastmaster's level. also partied for 2 hours, and didn't have any party issues. My flag did drop when i got the invite, i was in rolanberry and pt was in qufim.

So I take it this was a nerf to high level BST? Or just a rebalancing? Wasn't entirely aware of what was going on with BST to begin with.

That party flag thing is fantastic news, though.

it was a nerf to end game bst

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You can try these are being deleted as people comment negatively about the ZNM item removal without addressing smn burns or turbans or beak necklaces etc. Basically the people that bought items from ToAU are going to lose them but the people that farmed / crafted / sold them are going to keep the gils. Thinks like Cerb mantle, beak necklace, turban, Somehow staying in the game even though they were produced by the same - what some in the IRC were calling "Exploration" as the ZNMs : stuff like enkudo, oricle, auran, PW Drops like body and NANA gk, all to be removed with no compensation (so we are hearing right now) Fowling earring, bst reward axe, guarda headband for smn, the +7 int pants for blm, None of these items, earned the same way as ZNM gear and profited by the same farmers / smn burn etc are being penalized. (including crafted items like beak necklace selling for 250k or 900k for +1 or cerb mantle, or khimaria bonnet, or the most widely "exploited item" turbans.

But if you paid to get into a party to get that rare/ex oracle feet and legs? YOu are losing them. PAid to get a Nana sword by farming for months in crawler's nest? that money stays in the sellers bank but you lose your sword. Worse he isn't stopping the people selling of the items TODAY to other suckers thinking they are getting a cheap deal. Two Nana's sold for like 250k I heard a few more at 800k and 700k as the time of this post.

The survey asking about the item role back - deleted, sitting in IRC for about 4 hours tonight at least 5 other forum posts deleted concerning the same topics.


beastmaster gained nothing, no fixes to broken merit choices, only change I see is Beast affinity has been turned off. That is there is no difference between 0 BA and 5/5 (220k exp invested) BA. bst will go back to being the second shittiest dd in the game, just above pup which can't even call its pet. No changes to pup this patch. whatever "charm" thing was fixed was fixed for /bst as a sub nothing for main beast was fixed. Dawn muslum got 15 minute timer something that did not exist in retail at all but i hear no one in pet ls complaining about that. I think people thought that was abused but I don't ever think it was, (rather I think that is an ok thing to do, I see no down side except making bst possibly unable to beat maat. (but now we have blink bands and higher power healing medicine so I think they will be ok, when i did Maat on nas no blink bands and limited other items you could use.

So gear "renting from nms" is not all being removed or all the smn with the gardua head bands and war with fowling earing would be up in arms. Just the people that paid to get into bst+smn parties for things like enkido / oricle / auraun/ all the PW stuff that was sold. These are what is slated for removable or so the IRC channel states. NAbutso said turbans would not be removed even though all the bronze coins earned to buy them were during the same "EZ phase" So that that as you well. People are currently selling nanas and PW body to other suckers who wil be holding them when they are deleted.

*Thinks to self* Let me just post negatively so this one gets locked too.

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Do not spread misinformation. The only items being removed are those from EZ mode NMs. Like PW.

No one is losing a Turban, Beak Neck, etc. You are trying to start some mass panic that isn't justified.

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I'm not saying they are being removed I'm pointing out that if you wanted to remove items produced while stuff was on EX-mode they should be. other people paid to get enkudio legs and feet, or PW body, they lose those. A different guy bought bronze coins for turbine, beak necklace (Crafted from smn only burns of colbri) or cerb mantle (znm crafting drop only) yet get to keep there gear. Smn gardua head band or int+7 blm pants get to stay too. Just seems like some of the "ez mode items" get to stay while others go. That does not seem fair.

But to be honest its because I have some of the items going and zero or few of the items staying. IF i had a turban and beak necklace+1 I paid 1 mil gil for and a cerb mantle, and those were being removed I'd be pissed, just like I am because the things I paid to get are going away.

There has been 0 word on anything besides PW items specifically.

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Even if its just one item, say body. The same argument remains. People that were paid for those items and made money and will not be penalized. The people that bought those items will lose them and the gil they used to buy them.

I'm one of those people and that sucks. Double so when I see all the other items earned or bought during this "ez" time not being touched. Mostly because I did not buy a bunch of them I worked hard and bought a few trips to get rare/ex stuff like enkindo for thf, and a body from PW. I earned that money in non ToAU areas. Mostly by daily buying items, desnth and crafting. Slowly and surely. I didn't get to do the smn burn in ToAU for 60k an hour in colbri beaks and bronze coins. But ill still be out my money and those people that used the "ez mode" to make it will get to keep it.

That makes me fairly bitter.