Pretending that the retail mechanics of Pw are going to exist on Nas anytime soon is laughable.

He’ll “fix it”, it’ll still be borked. We’ll all kill it and pretend that’s better and something was fixed lol

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Nothing is new, that’s my hecking point lol

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How long did it take to gather pop items for PW pop items on nasomi compared to how long it would take in the original retail design? Then, how long did a PW kill take and with how many BSTs VS how many hours should it have taken per SE design with how many playing characters?

Now, lets weigh that against how many man hours hours did TH being op cut off the farming time of a relic?

I have no relic and I have no PW items. I do have a brain and know that this is not the same hecking thing.

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Asura: Tsukkasa
Diablos: Summit
Nasomi: Summit

Also there’s literally another post here where your LS is complaining about its Hp and Regen not being accurate.

You can heck around with a bunch of stupid people all you want Sapa, I enjoy it too, but you can skip the lying. It’s unbecoming.

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I am not attacking TS, Sap and others have valid points. But we need to look at equivalence. If one type of gear is to be removed because it was obtained unfairly, then similar gear should be as well. We really need to think deeply how far this can go now and in the future.

Moreover, we need to think about possible solutions. Sap thought of 3. Maybe they're more, I don't know. But what I am tired of hearing about are players who believe that new content is being exploited because PW, or any ZNM gear for that matter, is out there. No, the content will be there regardless if the gear is removed or kept. But at the same time, let's be real that there is an inflated quantity of these gear floating around. But unlike what people make it out to be that the prices will increase because of their rarity, I don't think so when there are over 300+ in the entire game. Many sellable ZNM gear is rare, meaning only one char can have it. 300+ in a server with 1300 distinct accounts (Nasomi), there are more than plenty to go around. There will be the short term speculation, but economics doesn't work that way. There is a high enough supply and demand for it is limited to the jobs that can wear it. These also have utlility--lot's of uses for what it is--as well, so i don't see their value also devalue too much either. May go up a mil or two more max, but that doesn't seem to be too difficult, from what everyone was saying in the threads that were deleted and on the chat; am I right?

The counter argument could be made that it's utility is far greater than the effort. There's arguments over other items, such as those who obtained relics with 20-25 big monies dropping in a session to AV and other mobs that died quickly. But not withstanding that, the gear obtained is not as OP, or even game breaking, like a relic is. So I really am trying to figure out why a fraction of the endgame community is so vocal against it? As I have shown through economics and through simple deduction, their reasons aren't valid in some fronts. But in others, it is. We cannot ignore the fact people got them quickly. But it does not hurt endgame content AT ALL. It, if anything, allows smaller LS's to catch up to bigger LS's. Plain and simple.

No, it's not, and it was already explained as to why it's not.

Like I said, risk. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't.

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PW isn’t popped. He’s just sitting up... or at least was.

Please don’t argue about things you have no knowledge of.

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Holy shit give up

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At least I am contributing to the conversation. What are you doing?

I’m trying to argue the point that you actually hold without making illogical statements and looking like a dumbass.

You’re not contributing anything. The relics aren’t being touched, and shouldn’t be... and is completely unrelated to why PW items shouldn’t be deleted.

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