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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:56 pm 
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I don’t believe that’s true. I believe he wil do what he thinks is right on a case by case basis, not what you think is right.

I don’t even actually care if he takes PW, I’d just like him to remove any mobs he might consider doing g this with in the future to avoid it happening again. And not letting PW pop until he’s ready for us to actually kill it... which seems obvious

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:59 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
I don’t believe that’s true. I believe he wil do what he thinks is right on a case by case basis, not what you think is right.

I don’t even actually care if he takes PW, I’d just like him to remove any mobs he might consider doing g this with in the future to avoid it happening again. And not letting PW pop until he’s ready for us to actually kill it... which seems obvious


I agree there with your second comment. With respect to your first comment, it seemed you weren't here when he put it out. So I think it would be wise to ask your LS what he said if you don't believe it. It was the result of SEVERAL people going in Naschat complaining that prompted Nas to do a smes explaining that he is going looking at it on a case by case basis and that he hasn't made up his mind as to what he will take away. Don't believe me, ask Nabu for that screenshot I know he posted it. I know Nas will do what he believes is best, but enough players spoke and he's taking it into consideration. It's not the same as doing as we say, but it's reasonable to say he's listening. At the end, we don't know what he will do.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:20 pm 
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Lol Wolf what were their arguments??? IN the relic scenario tell me?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:24 pm 
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KivyinShiva wrote:
Lol Wolf what were their arguments??? IN the relic scenario tell me?


He said it was because the player base threatened to leave and that isn't the case here.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:26 pm 
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KivyinShiva wrote:
Lol Wolf what were their arguments??? IN the relic scenario tell me?


One of the things going for the players against the relic rollback was their numbers. At that point the growth in the server had stagnated pretty heavily and most of the daily players were in end game/relic users. I'd say it was close to 50% of the server, if not more. Compare this to 308 Hachi bodies on, let's take current online numbers, 1338 players. That is only 23% of players if all 308 Hachi bodies were online at once.

Source: Was a noob in my first 3-4 months on Nasomi when it went down.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:28 pm 
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Leverage matters is the lesson for today

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:29 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
KivyinShiva wrote:
Lol Wolf what were their arguments??? IN the relic scenario tell me?


One of the things going for the players against the relic rollback was their numbers. At that point the growth in the server had stagnated pretty heavily and most of the daily players were in end game/relic users. I'd say it was close to 50% of the server, if not more. Compare this to 308 Hachi bodies on, let's take current online numbers, 1338 players. That is only 23% of players if all 308 Hachi bodies were online at once.

Source: Was a noob in my first 3-4 months on Nasomi when it went down.


Considering the 300+ playerbase that have PW body alone, with respects to the 1300 distinct accounts, is not insignificant or small. Just saying.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:30 pm 
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Nathano wrote:
KivyinShiva wrote:
Lol Wolf what were their arguments??? IN the relic scenario tell me?


He said it was because the player base threatened to leave and that isn't the case here.


People will leave once it actually goes down.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:32 pm 
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Nathano wrote:
Kazen wrote:
KivyinShiva wrote:
Lol Wolf what were their arguments??? IN the relic scenario tell me?


One of the things going for the players against the relic rollback was their numbers. At that point the growth in the server had stagnated pretty heavily and most of the daily players were in end game/relic users. I'd say it was close to 50% of the server, if not more. Compare this to 308 Hachi bodies on, let's take current online numbers, 1338 players. That is only 23% of players if all 308 Hachi bodies were online at once.

Source: Was a noob in my first 3-4 months on Nasomi when it went down.


300+ people with 1300 distinct accounts is not insignificant or small. Just saying.


No but with the constant growth of the server, those 300 people would be back in the form of new players in ~3 months tops. Back at the relic rollback, half the server leaving would've greatly decimated the server economy, crafting and endgame scenes all at the same time.

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People will leave once it actually goes down.


And there's a "new" server for them that even had one of it's GMs/testers here posting for it.

One of the few things I've agreed with Wolffhardt in this thread,

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:32 pm 
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Concepcion wrote:
Nathano wrote:
KivyinShiva wrote:
Lol Wolf what were their arguments??? IN the relic scenario tell me?


He said it was because the player base threatened to leave and that isn't the case here.


People will leave once it actually goes down.


I agree and I think everyone agrees the solution here isn't easy either.


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