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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:44 am 
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Sorta surprised he didn’t take me up on it too

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I rewrote each and every single rule with all the information and precedents nas has ever brought up or applied and he refused to make the changes. Good luck!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:28 am 
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So first off, to anyone who claims that having 2 characters in a zone on an NM that can spawn over a large area isn't an advantage, you're a total idiot. (Stray Mary, VE, for low level example)

If I have 2 laptops with FFXI running with 2 characters a 20 second run away from each other, I literally have twice the chance the NM will spawn in front of me. I don't need to alt tab anything, I just move my hands to the second keyboard and hit a claim macro, if you can't do that in less time than it takes to run 20 seconds, I'm not really sure what to say. If I'm camping against you, I'll have my alt far away at another NM spawn point you need to run to, then I'll shadow you on my main. If it spawns in range of us, it's a 50 50 on who gets it assuming we have the same skill. If it spawns by my alt, I just move my hands a foot and a half and the spawn is mine 100% rather than a race for us to get to it. If you're trying to tell me being in 2 places at once isn't an advantage, you're lying to yourself and this discussion.

And to the few people I noticed that said I'm butthurt I was outclaimed on an NM and need to git good, I'm actually new on the server and I've never been outclaimed by a dual boxer, but I've ran past NM spawns and seen matching names many times.

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Sorta surprised he didn’t take me up on it too


Regardless of current interpretation of rules or what's allowed, I firmly believe that now that this servers population is more than 80, dual boxing is an issue that destroys entire portions of the economy.(high level players dual boxing low level content such as mining Zeruhn while doing stuff on their mains that they wouldn't normally be bothered to do because they can make more money elsewhere, but when dual boxing it's a little bump to overall profits with minimal work, this tanks and takes away profitable options away from low level players, etc) This is why you see posts of new players asking why early game economy is so bad compared to back in the day. It's largely due to dual boxing and partially due to the 100 cap on AH.

No amount of gil will change the fact this is an issue, plus, I don't want your greasy dual boxed gil lmao. I'll keep farming it on my single character the way the game was meant to be played

Honestly I didn't read many of the pages on here because I know there's a lot of people who are going full defense mode because they feel like they're getting attacked, but people reacted the same way when they found out their Fisher Price obtained ZNM items were getting taken away by daddy. Nasomi changed his mind on letting people keep their gear, and maybe he's willing to change this outdated rule as well.

If this subject has been settled in the past, that's the past. The server is populated now, and new discussion and a change is needed. That's what forums are for ;)


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:54 am 
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I love the idiotic comparisons to pw items people make.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:21 am 
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Azurewrath wrote:
So first off, to anyone who claims that having 2 characters in a zone on an NM that can spawn over a large area isn't an advantage, you're a total idiot. (Stray Mary, VE, for low level example)

If I have 2 laptops with FFXI running with 2 characters a 20 second run away from each other, I literally have twice the chance the NM will spawn in front of me. I don't need to alt tab anything, I just move my hands to the second keyboard and hit a claim macro, if you can't do that in less time than it takes to run 20 seconds, I'm not really sure what to say. If I'm camping against you, I'll have my alt far away at another NM spawn point you need to run to, then I'll shadow you on my main. If it spawns in range of us, it's a 50 50 on who gets it assuming we have the same skill. If it spawns by my alt, I just move my hands a foot and a half and the spawn is mine 100% rather than a race for us to get to it. If you're trying to tell me being in 2 places at once isn't an advantage, you're lying to yourself and this discussion.

And to the few people I noticed that said I'm butthurt I was outclaimed on an NM and need to git good, I'm actually new on the server and I've never been outclaimed by a dual boxer, but I've ran past NM spawns and seen matching names many times.

Wolffhardt wrote:
Sorta surprised he didn’t take me up on it too


Regardless of current interpretation of rules or what's allowed, I firmly believe that now that this servers population is more than 80, dual boxing is an issue that destroys entire portions of the economy.(high level players dual boxing low level content such as mining Zeruhn while doing stuff on their mains that they wouldn't normally be bothered to do because they can make more money elsewhere, but when dual boxing it's a little bump to overall profits with minimal work, this tanks and takes away profitable options away from low level players, etc) This is why you see posts of new players asking why early game economy is so bad compared to back in the day. It's largely due to dual boxing and partially due to the 100 cap on AH.

No amount of gil will change the fact this is an issue, plus, I don't want your greasy dual boxed gil lmao. I'll keep farming it on my single character the way the game was meant to be played

Honestly I didn't read many of the pages on here because I know there's a lot of people who are going full defense mode because they feel like they're getting attacked, but people reacted the same way when they found out their Fisher Price obtained ZNM items were getting taken away by daddy. Nasomi changed his mind on letting people keep their gear, and maybe he's willing to change this outdated rule as well.

If this subject has been settled in the past, that's the past. The server is populated now, and new discussion and a change is needed. That's what forums are for ;)


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:46 am 
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great i find this project go through all the trouble and it's just another older MMO nostalgia server absolutely shit on by multi-clienters and scripters

no joke this is like the 4th game in a row i've ran into this problem on, I guess this is why free account creation doesn't work you always end up with asshats VMwaring a dozen toons and ruining the economy and experience for all single clienters

into the trash it goes with swgemu/RO/OSRS/etc


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:14 am 
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Kongal wrote:
great i find this project go through all the trouble and it's just another older MMO nostalgia server absolutely shit on by multi-clienters and scripters

no joke this is like the 4th game in a row i've ran into this problem on, I guess this is why free account creation doesn't work you always end up with asshats VMwaring a dozen toons and ruining the economy and experience for all single clienters

into the trash it goes with swgemu/RO/OSRS/etc


Scripting is bannable and you can only play 2 characters, which need to be controlled manually.


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Kongal wrote:
great i find this project go through all the trouble and it's just another older MMO nostalgia server absolutely shit on by multi-clienters and scripters

no joke this is like the 4th game in a row i've ran into this problem on, I guess this is why free account creation doesn't work you always end up with asshats VMwaring a dozen toons and ruining the economy and experience for all single clienters

into the trash it goes with swgemu/RO/OSRS/etc


Where did they touch you?

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