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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:30 pm 
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Tsukkasa wrote:
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I hope the “unintended consequences from today’s maintenance” is still, somehow, BST needing nerfed more.


This, 100% of the time. Your broken job is still broken but you want to bitch about it not being broken as much? Meanwhile, I just watched my WHM die because Cover isn't working right. Keep on keeping on, Bst.


OR don't pull hate as whm. Either your tank isn't good, and as a pld it is not hard to hold hate off a whm. OR your pulling way to much hate as your healer, and the pld cannot hold it, which is ridiculously hard to do.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:34 pm 
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Louiscool wrote:
Tsukkasa wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
I hope the “unintended consequences from today’s maintenance” is still, somehow, BST needing nerfed more.


This, 100% of the time. Your broken job is still broken but you want to bitch about it not being broken as much? Meanwhile, I just watched my WHM die because Cover isn't working right. Keep on keeping on, Bst.


Please enlighten us on how it's still broken, unless you mean stay not regening hp and pet hate being completely broken (for bst and smn) since Part 1.

On the second point, pet hate has been busted since part 1. If you send your pet, and do nothing to gain enmity, when you dismiss/leave/it dies the smn/bst seems to get all or most of the enmity that the pet generated. You can try this with 2 smns or bsts very easily. Have 1 Carby to Meteorite and another Carby just auto-attack. Dismiss Meteorite carby and the enemy will go for that Summoner, instead of the other Carby.


I don't recall BST having jug pets lvl 85 in 75 era retail. Maybe I am wrong, I didn't pay much attention in retail. I feel I see more BSTs using jug pets on Nasomi than I ever did retail, though.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:35 pm 
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Skitles wrote:
Tsukkasa wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
I hope the “unintended consequences from today’s maintenance” is still, somehow, BST needing nerfed more.


This, 100% of the time. Your broken job is still broken but you want to bitch about it not being broken as much? Meanwhile, I just watched my WHM die because Cover isn't working right. Keep on keeping on, Bst.


OR don't pull hate as whm. Either your tank isn't good, and as a pld it is not hard to hold hate off a whm. OR your pulling way to much hate as your healer, and the pld cannot hold it, which is ridiculously hard to do.


I play neither, so I wouldn't know what the issue was. I'm just stating that there are more pressing needs atm than Nas worrying about BSTs again. He did what he believes he needed to, let's move on.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:36 pm 
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They indeed did not have lv 85 jug pets until much later. They haven't had that since last maintenance either (not this one).

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:42 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
They indeed did not have lv 85 jug pets until much later. They haven't had that since last maintenance either (not this one).


Welp, there ya go. I was more focusing on the fact that Nas has more pressing needs than focusing on people bitching about BST. That's all.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:47 pm 
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Tsukkasa wrote:
Skitles wrote:
Tsukkasa wrote:

This, 100% of the time. Your broken job is still broken but you want to bitch about it not being broken as much? Meanwhile, I just watched my WHM die because Cover isn't working right. Keep on keeping on, Bst.


OR don't pull hate as whm. Either your tank isn't good, and as a pld it is not hard to hold hate off a whm. OR your pulling way to much hate as your healer, and the pld cannot hold it, which is ridiculously hard to do.


I play neither, so I wouldn't know what the issue was. I'm just stating that there are more pressing needs atm than Nas worrying about BSTs again. He did what he believes he needed to, let's move on.

Now I am just speculating because I wasn't there but here's what happened;

The foolish party leader made a party with a PLD and a WHM with no refresh, so the PLD ran out of mana really quick and the WHM had to do ALL of the healing which in turn pulled a lot of hate. Without mana the PLD only has 3 ways to pull hate and two of them are long cool-downs and provoke is every 30 seconds so with everything on cool-down and the WHM pulling all the hate with their second Cure IV of this exceptionally long fight (he had PLD and WHM in the party it's safe to assume that kills were not quick) the PLD was hoping that Cover would save the day... but alas... the job ability didn't work as intended and the WHM fell to the ground... dead.

Neither player was at fault, I blame the party leader. ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:50 pm 
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Louiscool wrote:
Tsukkasa wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
I hope the “unintended consequences from today’s maintenance” is still, somehow, BST needing nerfed more.


This, 100% of the time. Your broken job is still broken but you want to bitch about it not being broken as much? Meanwhile, I just watched my WHM die because Cover isn't working right. Keep on keeping on, Bst.


Please enlighten us on how it's still broken, unless you mean stay not regening hp and pet hate being completely broken (for bst and smn) since Part 1.

On the second point, pet hate has been busted since part 1. If you send your pet, and do nothing to gain enmity, when you dismiss/leave/it dies the smn/bst seems to get all or most of the enmity that the pet generated. You can try this with 2 smns or bsts very easily. Have 1 Carby to Meteorite and another Carby just auto-attack. Dismiss Meteorite carby and the enemy will go for that Summoner, instead of the other Carby.



oh yeah - I don't think it's still broken, I was more looking for punitive damage for how ya'll acted when it was pointed out how broken it was.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:53 pm 
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Fhuri wrote:
Geez, a lot people talk a lot of shit on the FREE built game they get to play...

No it’s not perfect, but show a little appreciation or tact


Fix BST or I want a REFUND!!! :lol: Just because Nas spends 60 hours a week and thousands of dollars a month of his own money on this server that you build from scratch, doesn't mean you get to just do whatever you want! .... Oh wait. :lol:

Maybe some people should take their opinions and implement it on there own server, and see who goes to play on it :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:57 pm 
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AraY wrote:
Tsukkasa wrote:
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OR don't pull hate as whm. Either your tank isn't good, and as a pld it is not hard to hold hate off a whm. OR your pulling way to much hate as your healer, and the pld cannot hold it, which is ridiculously hard to do.


I play neither, so I wouldn't know what the issue was. I'm just stating that there are more pressing needs atm than Nas worrying about BSTs again. He did what he believes he needed to, let's move on.

Now I am just speculating because I wasn't there but here's what happened;

The foolish party leader made a party with a PLD and a WHM with no refresh, so the PLD ran out of mana really quick and the WHM had to do ALL of the healing which in turn pulled a lot of hate. Without mana the PLD only has 3 ways to pull hate and two of them are long cool-downs and provoke is every 30 seconds so with everything on cool-down and the WHM pulling all the hate with their second Cure IV of this exceptionally long fight (he had PLD and WHM in the party it's safe to assume that kills were not quick) the PLD was hoping that Cover would save the day... but alas... the job ability didn't work as intended and the WHM fell to the ground... dead.

Neither player was at fault, I blame the party leader. ;)


Very close, WHM over healed, PLD tried to Cover, didn't work and the WHM died is basically what happened. In the end, I used this story more for the fact that other, more important things need fixed before Nas goes into revamping BST for the 3rd time in less than a month. That was all.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:23 pm 
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I will personally give every career BST on the server 1 mil if they can all collectively stop crying.


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