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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:05 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Are you saying when a SMN releases their pet, they get all the enmity the pet had? Because that’s my experience so far.


That's how it seems, specially doing things like killing ninja mobs in dynamis with smns. Smns pet dies / releases and then the ninja comes over and explodes your face because new Garudas cant get hate back without another pact or 2.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:31 pm 
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Louiscool wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
Are you saying when a SMN releases their pet, they get all the enmity the pet had? Because that’s my experience so far.


That's how it seems, specially doing things like killing ninja mobs in dynamis with smns. Smns pet dies / releases and then the ninja comes over and explodes your face because new Garudas cant get hate back without another pact or 2.


These are all things I was unaware of. Just a lesson on not opening one's mouth when not knowing the whole story. My bad, carry on.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:37 pm 
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I guess that could be true... we did about 5 hours of R Pumps a few days ago, after the maintenance, with SMN damaging the pop NM and I never lost hate on NIN.. so it seemed normal. I dunno. Wouldn’t be surprised if he messed that up.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:49 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
I guess that could be true... we did about 5 hours of R Pumps a few days ago, after the maintenance, with SMN damaging the pop NM and I never lost hate on NIN.. so it seemed normal. I dunno. Wouldn’t be surprised if he messed that up.


Yeah, you only really notice it in situations where pets are doing the tanking, like Carby's on bombs, or other situations where enmity isn't being maintained by a designated tank.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:13 am 
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Louiscool wrote:
Yeah, you only really notice it in situations where pets are doing the tanking, like Carby's on bombs, or other situations where enmity isn't being maintained by a designated tank.


Are you saying that changed with this last maintenance? Because it was 100% not the case for smns before it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:25 pm 
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If that is the case now, then level 20 mini-trials are now impossible. This needs testing, and I can't do it as I no longer have SMN.
If it's the case that's going to need fixing pronto.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:36 pm 
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Enmity overall is definitely an issue. I'm not sure if it's a side effect or not but I'll give one example: a member of our social LS helped a lower level person by killing Aquarius for them. Only the guy killing touched it, there were no actions whatsoever done to the guy who was actively killing Aquarius however Aquarius lost hate 4 times on the guy killing to go attack the other person.

It just seems very random at this juncture. Is this being looked at by chance? I noticed the extreme enmity difference after the first BST maintenance.

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Nasomi mentioned on stream he was planning on implementing Mag Acc fixes on Monday. Any mention if the changes are in yet?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:40 am 
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Well, with another delay it looks like we won't have that maint today either.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:41 am 
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I can't speak to recent changes, but there has been a longstanding issue where when a pet that has hate dies/is released, the mob runs for the master. If, for example, two garudas use p.claws on a mob, and the one with threat is released or dies, it'll go for that garuda's master.


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