Shhhh, don't let facts interfere with the narrative.

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We were making Light in Mount Z merit camp with GSword + Gaxe, one shotting IT++ mobs with an SC. That definitely wasn't gonna happen with a scythe, since I dont think scythe SCs with Metatron at all.

It definitely wasn't going to happen without a Bravura as well. Again, I'm not saying keep your GS skill at 0 but saying a DRK "needs" it is laughable.

Metatron>>Catastrophe = Gravitation btw :p

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Yeah definitely not a need, we could have just done RR >> Guillotine or Guilo >> RR for probably better numbers, but sometimes its just nice to mess around with something else.

Cross reaper >Megatron=fusion as well.

Excluding Apocalypse, which kind of changes the game for DRK, there are many situations where Great Sword is preferable to Scythe for endgame.

On any high evasion mob or any situation where you're not buffed with multiple songs from a BRD rotation, Spinning Slash will be higher and more consistent damage than Guillotine or lolCross Reaper. For example, on Sky Gods and Kirin, ToAU HNMs and Wyrms (if you even bother to put melee on them anyway). It also would be good for setting up or closing Light on Fafnir/Nidhogg. On retail it was also significantly more consistent against enemies in Dynamis - Xarcabard than Scythe. A single BRD buffed Spinning Slash on a Kindred should be good for 700-1,000 damage (more if you double attack) whereas Guillotine may spike that high, but will usually hit for significantly less.

Scythe is clearly better if you're doing a zerg, a BRD rotation, or fighting monsters with low evasion or low defense (like in any merit party). There is no disputing that. But Great Sword is an important component of being a DRK and if you are or were a career DRK on retail you'd definitely understand that. I realize lots of people on Nasomi leveled it just because they had a Kraken Club, but in actuality there's a lot more to DRK than just its utility as a zerg job.

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Nasomi (DraconicBallad)

Can't think of very many unless you are a Career 75 DRK only.



If you don't have a BRD for your DDs(Protip: you don't need to rotate them) and you're doing endgame, you got bigger problems than Spinning Slash vs Guillotine. Not to mention even up to Kirin I have good numbers compared to everything else, with 1 BRD usually doing Marches.




My Guillotines were regularly hitting for those numbers and higher. If you're going to be using Spinning Slash for a SC, I'd rather use Kasha+Shark Bite so you have less TP feed+TH already covered. Maybe that makes a little too much sense, try again.



Nah, I leveled the job way before I had a Kraken Club and honestly, my GS is ~level 110 from trying to deal damage on PLD not DRK. You bring up all of these points in a vacuum where this person is only 75 DRK.

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So.. you're arguing that Scythe is better in 100% of situations but you don't even have Great Sword skilled up yet? I assume you probably have a relic in which case this argument may not even be valid but you should level up your Great Sword and try it. You'll be pleasantly surprised. Trust me, as a career DRK on retail, until I got my Apocalypse there were many situations where I preferred to use my Great Sword.

Whether or not the player has other 75 jobs is completely irrelevant for the discussion. We're talking about Great Swords for DRK. We're not talking about SAM, DRG, BLM or any other job.

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Nah Death Scythe +1, all day every day.

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