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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:40 pm 
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We all know SMN heals the best. Everyone wants a lolDRG. PUP is OP, and MNKs are the best pullers.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:45 pm 
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mmy dad works at nasomey and he said that white mage is good

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:59 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
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I love when people disagree and then literally go on to state why it’s true.


I didn't? You think that by me saying RDM is better that makes WHM bad which is the thing I'm exactly arguing against. You are saying your opinion is that WHM exp is bad and horrible experience. I'm disagreeing with you saying it isn't. Not much to go from there but you think me disagreeing with you is somehow "hurting feelings". Does everyone who disagree with you in life feel like a personal attack?



If you only need one or the other... and one is better... the other is?????


Less effective? Which is not synonymous with "OMG don't play this job its so bad". I'm paraphrasing obviously... please don't make me go back and quote...


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:20 pm 
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Niloc wrote:
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I didn't? You think that by me saying RDM is better that makes WHM bad which is the thing I'm exactly arguing against. You are saying your opinion is that WHM exp is bad and horrible experience. I'm disagreeing with you saying it isn't. Not much to go from there but you think me disagreeing with you is somehow "hurting feelings". Does everyone who disagree with you in life feel like a personal attack?



If you only need one or the other... and one is better... the other is?????


Less effective? Which is not synonymous with "OMG don't play this job its so bad". I'm paraphrasing obviously... please don't make me go back and quote...



And if you're less effective at your role than a very readily available job on a server with 1700 people on it.......... the experience you might have while trying to get levels could charitably be described as????

You'll get there eventually. The experience of leveling WHM sucks. WHM, itself, doesn't suck. WHM in an exp party is some word between sucks and RDM... Which makes people just invite a RDM... which makes the experience of leveling WHM suck.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:37 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Niloc wrote:
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If you only need one or the other... and one is better... the other is?????


Less effective? Which is not synonymous with "OMG don't play this job its so bad". I'm paraphrasing obviously... please don't make me go back and quote...



And if you're less effective at your role than a very readily available job on a server with 1700 people on it.......... the experience you might have while trying to get levels could charitably be described as????

You'll get there eventually. The experience of leveling WHM sucks. WHM, itself, doesn't suck. WHM in an exp party is some word between sucks and RDM... Which makes people just invite a RDM... which makes the experience of leveling WHM suck.


I don't know if you've been leveling recently but rdm's aren't falling from the sky as you proclaim. Obviously performing a search result at this very moment due to server reset will probably be a mixed bag but go ahead and search tonight periodically and see all these supposed rdms that are seeking nonstop. Sit around and wait for a rdm to pop or take the whm that might perform (in my opinion) slightly less effective than the rdm? I'll choose the whm.

Again, I understand your argument. Due to people picking rdm before picking whm will make it feel like you aren't getting invites and impact your experience leveling. The problem is this (yours and others) perception that whm is multiple orders of magnitude worse than rdm at the actual role in exp party, when it's not. It's a bad stigma that you are perpetuating and I think at this point your arguing for devils advocate purposes.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:39 pm 
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they aren't sitting around and seeking nonstop because they're all in XP parties fam.

i basically talk in absolutes and as if my opinions are facts 100% of the time. We're all adults, I think people can realize that when I'm giving my opinion (evidence by when i'm speaking) it is, in fact, my opinion.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:39 pm 
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Yup, trolling. Got it.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:40 pm 
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Niloc wrote:
I don't know if you've been leveling recently but rdm's aren't falling from the sky as you proclaim. Obviously performing a search result at this very moment due to server reset will probably be a mixed bag but go ahead and search tonight periodically and see all these supposed rdms that are seeking nonstop. Sit around and wait for a rdm to pop or take the whm that might perform (in my opinion) slightly less effective than the rdm? I'll choose the whm.

Again, I understand your argument. Due to people picking rdm before picking whm will make it feel like you aren't getting invites and impact your experience leveling. The problem is this (yours and others) perception that whm is multiple orders of magnitude worse than rdm at the actual role in exp party, when it's not. It's a bad stigma that you are perpetuating and I think at this point your arguing for devils advocate purposes.

Notice how he talks in absolutes and making his statements as facts? Even if your experience


RDM is better in exp than WHM 41-75 in 98%(+/-2%), fact. This is literally the only point I've been arguing this entire time.

WHM is better than no mage, also fact.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:41 pm 
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Niloc wrote:
Yup, trolling. Got it.



not agreeing with you isn't trolling. sorry if that hurts your feelings.

please go back and find me where I said that I'd rather not have any mage at all instead of inviting a WHM.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:43 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
RDM is better in exp than WHM 41-75 in 98%(+/-2%), fact. This is literally the only point I've been arguing this entire time.

WHM is better than no mage, also fact.


I can agree with this statement. Better yes, WHM will still perform just fine in infinite chain parties is all I'm saying.


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