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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:45 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
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I love how everyone has been asking for weeks about if the RNG changes were the range damage nerfs, or if the fishing changes were fatigue. And both nasomi and nab said that they weren't, but in reality they 100% were, love the blatant lying to the community.

SE's RNG change set the max damage to be obtainable at a very specific range, with the max damage post-nerf to be equal to the max damage pre-nerf.

Nas's RNG change sets the max damage to be obtainable at a very specific range, but the max damage post-nerf is higher than the max damage pre-nerf. You can get your full RNG damage from pre-patch in a wider range than you did in retail, and you can do even more in the sweet spot.




You realize that both would be described as a ranged distance nerf, right? Like certainly that's not ACTUALLY lost on you?

Blink twice if you get it.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:46 pm 
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Puppetmaster stuff for crazy people still trying to level it

- Maneuvers now overload your automaton for 2 minutes when used, it used to give stat boosts for the duration of the maneuver. Throw your Animator in the mog house.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:46 pm 
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Since the maintenance I haven't landed a single slug shot in 40 attempts at various ranges on my Corsair. I have full Marksmanship merits, +136 Ranged accuracy and a Light Gorget.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:49 pm 
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Siegurd wrote:
Since the maintenance I haven't landed a single slug shot in 40 attempts at various ranges on my Corsair. I have full Marksmanship merits, +136 Ranged accuracy and a Light Gorget.


Intentional. If you can't land a WS then you can't pull hate. If you never pull hate then you can always be in your sweet spot and always do a little more than max damage before the change.


(I'm joking. It's a known glitch but it's hilarious in a way.)


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:49 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
Aerec wrote:
I love how everyone has been asking for weeks about if the RNG changes were the range damage nerfs, or if the fishing changes were fatigue. And both nasomi and nab said that they weren't, but in reality they 100% were, love the blatant lying to the community.

SE's RNG change set the max damage to be obtainable at a very specific range, with the max damage post-nerf to be equal to the max damage pre-nerf.

Nas's RNG change sets the max damage to be obtainable at a very specific range, but the max damage post-nerf is higher than the max damage pre-nerf. You can get your full RNG damage from pre-patch in a wider range than you did in retail, and you can do even more in the sweet spot.

The fishing changes aren't fatigue. Fatigue in retail refers to you only being able to catch a specific # of fish a day. You can still catch as many fish as you want on nasomi. You just can't literally stay in one spot for 24 hrs with a bot and fish infinitely until you're caught. If you aren't botting, you probably won't even notice the fishing changes, and when you do notice that you aren't catching stuff, you can just.. you know, move a bit and suddenly you're fine. It's not fatigue.

People are reporting you have to zone to fish again. Moving around a bit is not enough.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:51 pm 
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Wot m8?

We added stuff that was pretty much this stuff but wasn't this stuff but in reality has the same effect as this stuff?

Its still a blatent lie to the community when people were asking if it was the distance nerf changes, and yall said no. Even if you edited it a little bit, also saying "the range is SLIGHTLY wider than what SE did" doesn't help your case.

And yea its fatigue, there were 2 different fishing fatigue implementations that SE did. The first was to make it so you had to switch spots after awhile, then when that didn't stop RMTs they swapped it to 200 fish a day. Still fatigue, depends on how craptastic nas made it. I don't even fish anymore, but man this sucks for new people trying to make money if its anywhere near what SE did when they put fishing spot CDs in the game.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:52 pm 
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Did he intentionally break the delivery box site on the Account page? or is that justme?

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...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:52 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
SE's RNG change set the max damage to be obtainable at a very specific range, with the max damage post-nerf to be equal to the max damage pre-nerf.

Nas's RNG change sets the max damage to be obtainable at a very specific range, but the max damage post-nerf is higher than the max damage pre-nerf. You can get your full RNG damage from pre-patch in a wider range than you did in retail, and you can do even more in the sweet spot.


So I'm gimped af if the mob is a kite fight. I'm gimped af if the mob does TP moves that are deadly for people within a 20.0 not in the tank PT. I'm also gimped in exp because I do big dick damage just based on the job and I can't stand at "optimal range" for any period of time.

Fuck outta here with this shit.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:53 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
SE's RNG change set the max damage to be obtainable at a very specific range, with the max damage post-nerf to be equal to the max damage pre-nerf.

Nas's RNG change sets the max damage to be obtainable at a very specific range, but the max damage post-nerf is higher than the max damage pre-nerf. You can get your full RNG damage from pre-patch in a wider range than you did in retail, and you can do even more in the sweet spot.


So I'm gimped af if the mob is a kite fight. I'm gimped af if the mob does TP moves that are deadly for people within a 20.0 not in the tank PT. I'm also gimped in exp because I do big dick damage just based on the job and I can't stand at "optimal range" for any period of time.

Fuck outta here with this shit.

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...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:55 pm 
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Hmm going from BST to RNG, I feel like the walls of nerfing is following me :lol:

Just to be sure, can we have the ranges for the nerf spelled out for us or will we have to spend weeks figuring out there are errors in the calculations? Are they exactly like the values at here: https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Distance


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